A breh gon enlist in the Air Force

[Jekyll]

Bro I'm a cyber officer. You're misinformed.

*I* dont know shyt cuz I've never done this kinda work before, havent been trained, and lucked into getting selected.

My peers on the other hand, In both ANG and AD are literally geniuses in their field.

Cyber isn't a typical military career field. Many other officers had knowledge prior to the military and if anything are over qualified to be in the military. They joined for a more relaxed work environment, benes, SCI clearance, pensions, experience and certs. Not to mention exposure to network topography that you wont see in the private sector.

Youre also wrong again about experience. in the cyber ops world O-1-O-3 are working side by side with enlisted getting hands on operational experience. As a senior level or fast burner captain, cyber officers start taking on more mission planning, training, stan/eval, weapons and tactics positions. Pretty high level positions especially as the air forces cyber mission expands.

The one thing I'll agree on is that more sophisticated cyber operations officers leave AD asap because of the pay difference. Which is why the guard has the best cyber officers in all of DoD.

I mean Im pretty sure there are some good ones out there. Its not like IT is a secret. But the majority of the ones I've worked with have been garbage. And when I was in they weren't even allowed to have admins so I knew for a fact that they wasnt touching shyt.

Its one thing to sit around watching somebody else work but alot of them would fail if they had to handle real world situations by themselves. And that's mostly what IT is at upper levels. I do what 3 or 4 positions would do by myself and there's nobody above me to pass problems I can't fix off to or below for that matter.

They would probably feast at managing a call center or helpdesk or some shyt but aint nobody lining up for them jobs.

 

[Jekyll]

Ofcourse you’re contracting....

That makes sense. I’ll probably get a CASP later. Just got CSA recently but finishing my certs through college.

I need to get out there in the contracting world though. Thats only thing i regret getting out is not taking advantage of that

shyt the only thing that matter is if you can still get a clearance and pass the interviews.

 

[Marc Spector]

I mean Im pretty sure there are some good ones out there. Its not like IT is a secret. But the majority of the ones I've worked with have been garbage. And when I was in they weren't even allowed to have admins so I knew for a fact that they wasnt touching shyt.

Its one thing to sit around watching somebody else work but alot of them would fail if they had to handle real world situations by themselves. And that's mostly what IT is at upper levels. I do what 3 or 4 positions would do by myself and there's nobody above me to pass problems I can't fix off to or below for that matter.

They would probably feast at managing a call center or helpdesk or some shyt but aint nobody lining up for them jobs.

Dont know when you were in and it sounds like you were on the Comm side anyway and not Ops.

All I'll say is that there is nowadays in both Ops and Comm, a far greater emphasis on technical competence.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

shyt the only thing that matter is if you can still get a clearance and pass the interviews.

My clearance went “inactive” or some shyt despite me having 10 years and 5 years left...

So im trying to get it reinstated now but they gonna have me wait around awhile.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I am going to the air force once i get my weight down. I have a two year degree in business management. Will i be able to get in as an officer?

No

You need a bachelors

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

No

You need a bachelors

He will also need to enroll into an academy or some kinda officer program He won't be able to start off as a butter bar off the bat with just a bachelors.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

He will also need to enroll into an academy or some kinda officer program He won't be able to start off as a butter bar off the bat with just a bachelors.

Well yeah but they won’t even accept him without the bachelors

 

[Jekyll]

Dont know when you were in and it sounds like you were on the Comm side anyway and not Ops.

All I'll say is that there is nowadays in both Ops and Comm, a far greater emphasis on technical competence.

I got out 2011. And all that's good but I've seen far too many people with hella degrees and certs get kicked to the curb in IT. These companies ain't playing and tired of hiring college graduates that don't actually know shyt and can't work by themselves. Most officers I worked with fit that category. That resume sounds hella good until its time to write a working script in 15 minutes with no google.

 

[Marc Spector]

Basically any branch you can go in as an officer with a degree. Degree = Officer = higher pay. AF has the best quality of life for it's ENLISTED but the perks of being an officer in the AF isn't as good as other branches

just curious what makes you say Air Force O's don't have it as well?

 

[O.T.I.S.]

just curious what makes you say Air Force O's don't have it as well?

I didn’t say they didn’t have it but ots not like other branches.

Navy tries to treat it’s officers like royalty (it’s based off the royal navy so....) and in other branches like Army or Marines just being an E5 is like a big deal.

AF is fairly new branch and their officers don’t really get the kind of treatment that the other branches get. They literally just act like regular people and focus on the mission. I loved working for them because they had zero tolerance for stupid shyt and actually gave a fukk about their personnel.

Like we would get requests for the dumbest projects and they would say “fukk no” to damn near everyone. But when we had Navy chain of command we was doing anything and everything because our divo or chief would be trying to kiss someones ass or look good to get favors and to rank up. Army NCO’s would be similar but stupid and the only thing they was good for was cussing people out that fukked with us because they didn’t give a fukk about anyones rank/branch

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

so im prolly gonna go with the Army cus of my record n the fact my job is guaranteed.


gotta 79 on my asvab n gonna talk to my recruiter again in afew days about the jobs i can get.

i wanna do 17c, 25b or possibly even 25v

 

[O.T.I.S.]

so im prolly gonna go with the Army cus of my record n the fact my job is guaranteed.


gotta 79 on my asvab n gonna talk to my recruiter again in afew days about the jobs i can get.

i wanna do 17c, 25b or possibly even 25v

Army

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

Army

jobs prolly guaranteed there for a reason huh

 

[Paisley Darts]

Different branches offer differ things and are for different people but man I personally couldn't do Army or Marines. They treat their low ranking enlisted like shyt.

I'd rank the branches: 1A-Air Force, 1B-Coast Guard, 3-Navy, 4-Marines, 5-Army

 

[O.T.I.S.]

jobs prolly guaranteed there for a reason huh

You better stay your blackass in the AF until they say they can’t take you

That “job is guaranteed” shyt is a ploy they use to keep you in the army recruiting so you won’t dip off somewhere else.

Unless they gonna drop you some bonus money but thats up to you. Other than that