A Chicago pizzeria said it temporarily closed because of the labor shortage, costing it $5,000. Its

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Y'all really think everybody should make the same wages. SMH:francis:

Minimum wage is like $20 in Australia and shyt way more expensive over there. But I'll let y'all so the talking.:unimpressed:
Who said everybody should make that wage:dwillhuh: or even everybody should be rich like folks like you love to say:gucci: but everybody at the bare minimum, that works full time should be able to have a quality life . It’s inhumane to think otherwise. I make good money but I still want everyone to have a decent life.
 
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This country is broke. The money is you. The energy you have to work is the money. The paper isn't worth a damn and is only backed by your energy.
Unless you are working for a fortune 500 company I don't see how there is enough money for everyone to earn a living wage in our largest cities. If you believe that fortune 500 should employ the totality of America, that puts the principles and innovations of capitalism in jeopardy because people that are broke and hungry, come up with the best ideas. ( My opinion)

People saying McDonald's should give a living wage don't understand business and don't care to understand. They want Zaddy.

I believe a job is a placeholder for stability while you as a Man work on and master your personal gifts so you can venture into your own hustles ( ways to make money). This is what people do when they want to break out not wait on a pipe dream.

If you are black and unemployed holding out for a huge wage shift like these cacs I believe it's dangerous because of racism. These jobs will mostly go to other side with a small number of us squeezing in the cracks which will have a trickle down effect in hiring until we are basically where we are now. Now is the time to get it.


Starting pay for the humblest burger-flipper at McDonald’s in Denmark is about $22 an hour once various pay supplements are included. The McDonald’s workers in Denmark get six weeks of paid vacation a year, life insurance, a year’s paid maternity leave and a pension plan. And like all Danes, they enjoy universal medical insurance and paid sick leave.

One reason Denmark was more effective than the United States in responding to the crisis is that no Dane hesitated to seek treatment because of concerns about medical bills.

Abu Sayeed knew that Americans working in fast food don’t do so well. “I heard about the movement,” he said, trying to remember its name. “Fight for something. Fight for $20? What was it?”

“Fight for $15,” I explained. “They want $15 an hour.”

There was an awkward silence. He nodded sympathetically. Then he tried not to sound condescending.

“I feel for them,” he said earnestly of American workers at McDonald’s. “We are from the same brand.”

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Opinion | McDonald’s Workers in Denmark Pity Us (Published 2020)

it's you who doesn't understand, american workers have been getting screwed over.:martin:
 

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This country is broke. The money is you. The energy you have to work is the money. The paper isn't worth a damn and is only backed by your energy.
Unless you are working for a fortune 500 company I don't see how there is enough money for everyone to earn a living wage in our largest cities. If you believe that fortune 500 should employ the totality of America, that puts the principles and innovations of capitalism in jeopardy because people that are broke and hungry, come up with the best ideas. ( My opinion)

People saying McDonald's should give a living wage don't understand business and don't care to understand. They want Zaddy.

I believe a job is a placeholder for stability while you as a Man work on and master your personal gifts so you can venture into your own hustles ( ways to make money). This is what people do when they want to break out not wait on a pipe dream.

If you are black and unemployed holding out for a huge wage shift like these cacs I believe it's dangerous because of racism. These jobs will mostly go to other side with a small number of us squeezing in the cracks which will have a trickle down effect in hiring until we are basically where we are now. Now is the time to get it.

Stop letting rich white Republicans dictate how you think. You'll never be part of the club and if you do make it I'll be the first to congratulate you on your "success" because that seems to be your goal.

There is plenty of everything in this world for everyone. You might not always have what you want instantly but getting anything is possible. It just depends on your priorities.

During COVID the company I work for made record profits but the price of beef is through the roof. Our employees all got at least a dollar raise last year and we're on pace for record profits again this year.

More billionaires were created last year then ever before. There is plenty of money for everyone.
 

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all those current $30+ an hour occupations you worried about should be getting paid more! wages have been stagnant for a lot of professions for decades.

did it ever occur to you they should be fighting for better wages as well?






Except professionals & trades aren't behind in wages.


Engineers have median salaries of $90k. Nursing it's about the same median salary. IT folks make $100k easy. The trades make $80k and sometimes make more than professionals. And those take a few years to get after 4 years training/education. So as you can see, the higher your skill, the more you get paid.

Meanwhile Y'all talking about starting off fast food workers with $30/hr with just 2 weeks training.

When your opinion is based on emotion, nobody is gonna take you seriously.
 

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You said everybody should make the wage:dwillhuh: or even everybody should be rich like folks like you love to say:gucci: but everybody at the bare minimum, that works full time should be able to have a quality life . It’s inhumane to think otherwise. I make good money but I still want everyone to have a decent life.

There's nothing stopping fast food workers from moving up or going to college or going to trade school or truck driving.

You get in what you put in. Put in no effort and that's what you get. But I'll be damn to agree with $30/hr food service when there's people who worked their way up from the bottom and are now making that wage.
 

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Your post would be accurate if there weren't already living wage jobs. What are people doing where they can't find those jobs? My brother went from 8.50 to 19, and now got job interviews coming up that start at $60k minimum.

Plenty of living wage jobs out there already, so I don't see what's the big deal y'all making
I would love to hear someone in this thread explain why all jobs can't pay that living wage though?

And if you're argument is that some shouldn't then okay (which is retarded), why should people work those jobs?
 

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Businesses are seeing without their employees you ain't shyt. There needs to be some kind of universal profit sharing model to pay your workers there fair share. 5k a day in revenue times that by 7 days is 1.8 mill annually revenue. After taxes that 1.3 mill, let's say they spent 300k on food and rent. 1 mill profit right there even if you have 9 full time employees you can pay them all $27 an hour and still make over 500k in profits.
70-80% of all revenue is spent on wages for most businesses....
 

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They missed $5000 after being closed one day and I guarantee the total salaries and operating costs for that day combined wouldn’t have been more than $1500.

Break bread..
if they haven't shuttered their doors they probably aren't really struggling like they say. owner probably just tired of not having the same ability to demean his workers as he's used to.
 

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Except professionals & trades aren't behind in wages.


Engineers have median salaries of $90k. Nursing it's about the same median salary. IT folks make $100k easy. The trades make $80k and sometimes make more than professionals. And those take a few years to get after 4 years training/education. So as you can see, the higher your skill, the more you get paid.

Meanwhile Y'all talking about starting off fast food workers with $30/hr with just 2 weeks training.

When your opinion is based on emotion, nobody is gonna take you seriously
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The irony here is that you're approaching this argument from an emotional place. It's not really your fault, American politics is more emotional than most people care to admit.

Despite the current market forces that are actually enabling low skilled workers to find better paying jobs, you still feel that low skilled deserve a salary under a certain threshold.

Your feelings for what they deserve are based on how long an engineer/nurse/skilled worker had to learn Thier particular skill.

Thing is, all of those people are in different job markets with different barriers of entry and don't effect each other's payscales (well not directly at least).
 

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Stop letting rich white Republicans dictate how you think. You'll never be part of the club and if you do make it I'll be the first to congratulate you on your "success" because that seems to be your goal.

There is plenty of everything in this world for everyone. You might not always have what you want instantly but getting anything is possible. It just depends on your priorities.

During COVID the company I work for made record profits but the price of beef is through the roof. Our employees all got at least a dollar raise last year and we're on pace for record profits again this year.

More billionaires were created last year then ever before. There is plenty of money for everyone.

Republicans arent dictating shyt. fukk high taxes too. I came to Cali broke and stupid. I busted my ass working, saved my pennies with my wife and got my piece, like I was taught to do by my elders.

We just disagree on the responsibilities that someone we sell out services to owe us. I don't think they owe me shyt. If you feel they owe you then join a union and make them. More power to you. Let me go tell my jiujitsu coach he owe money cuz I helped do warmups for the class. Please.


Profit sharing is best in companies like manufacturing where your life is at risk, youre breathing toxic air, while busting your ass doing tasks that only appear easy to people that are in it or on the outside. McDonald's franchises that make 150k a year cannot afford to profit share and pay 25 dollars an hour to 8 employees with benefits. Small family businesses definitely can't afford it.

For profit sharing to be a national policy there has to be less options for work and you are dependant on mega corporations for your existence. We aren't there yet. There's 9 million unfilled jobs. We need hungry people for ideas or we become a nation that doesn't innovate shyt and lose our hunger for more

Everyone who hasn't built their little empire from nothing can say what they'd do but I'm not seeing many that do, even when they came from nothing. That's theirs. Get yours or buy stock when they sell to the public.

My goal is to die comfortable and leave whatever I have to my kids and family so they can do as I did. If I'm lucky my side work will pop off and I can get out the rat race. Success to me is just being able to provide without having to hate on the next man or expect something from others and I felt like that at my brokest
 
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