A Chicago pizzeria said it temporarily closed because of the labor shortage, costing it $5,000. Its

[Orbital-Fetus]

Socialist be like "if you cant afford to offer livable wage, then you shouldn't have a business"

Meanwhile big corporations knowing small businesses about to be eaten up in the cut like -

Yes, lets close up all the small businesses and depend on big corporations. They always do us right

we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
best believe that these corps will eventually feel the pain.
it's gonna take time. after the 1918 pandemic the same thing happened.
worker shortages gave labor the upper hand.

look at WW2.

employers offering health insurance is a direct result of labor shortage.
all of the able bodied men got shipped off to fight, now you have a shift in the value of an employee.
employers had to offer better wages and "benefits" to fill their needs.

the result:

women in the workforce
higher wages
stronger unions

i could go on and on and on.

i've said it before, we are navigating through unnavigated seas.
i don't know how this is going to turn out but i do know that the
people are getting to the breaking point. creature comforts only
go so far.

 

[Mowgli]

No Big Loss It’s Chicago Pizza

You saying Chicago pizza is trash?

 

[Uno Venova]

70-80% of all revenue is spent on wages for most businesses....

A quick google search had me seeing about 20%. You got a link?

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

70-80% of all revenue is spent on wages for most businesses....

This the biggest bullshyt I ever seen on the coli. Nobody would be in business if that were the case.

 

[Conan]

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

This the biggest bullshyt I ever seen on the coli. Nobody would be in business if that were the case.

gotta see who's paying attention here. a lot of bullshyt posted.

 

[that guy]

If you pay $21 an hour and they are all leaving for higher paying jobs then guess what... $21 an hour aint enough.

Its really not that complicated.


I remember the last job I left not all that long ago. They were shocked I was leaving. I told them I found a higher paying better job.

They responded that I was making more than the market average already.

So? I dont care if I was making double market average... if someone else offers me triple, i'm taking that obviously.



You can use all the complex economics you want, but for most jobs that are experiencing this... ya'll simply aint paying enough.

The love to throw that “market value” bs around when it comes to pay but want more than “market value” work ethic

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

A quick google search had me seeing about 20%. You got a link?

nah see what had happened was this book I ain't read had that stat in it.

 

[that guy]

The sad thing is he is likely only paying $18/hr due to the recent work shortage. He was probably paying less than 15/hr prior to the pandemic.

The fact that he could easily increase their pay substantially and has even more room to increase their pay further displays how exploitative these companies are

 

[that guy]

did it ever occur to you that those other occupations are underpaid as well?

I was just about to say this. When I was a nurse they tried to underpay me talking about “market value.”

what they don’t tell you is the market value for nurses salary is artificially deflated due to hospitals importing thousands of nurses from the Filipines for cheap

 

[that guy]

I always wonder why stress level isn’t factored into job pay. People love to throw out that burger flippers shouldn’t make the same as “skilled” workers but the stress level in the former job position is astronomically higher and should be compensated for that

 

[Tom Foolery]

Y'all know damn well y'all ain't do no real labor Suicide at a call center

Pay pizza makers the same as skilled trades/engineers/nurses brehs

Naw I ain't on some fake shyt like you.

You've never mixed cement by hand, had to get on your hands and knees to lay and grout tiles, or or do interlocking. You're the one that's never done these types of jobs.

All that shyt is nowhere close to the mental stress of having a manager bytch about metrics you have no control over, complaint cases piling up, answering back to back calls with no breaks.

It's not just about the pay, it's the work quality and work life balance. At least in construction you can move once the job is complete, Call Centre is just one continues shyt show.

 

[duckbutta]

What part of the supply side labor market do you not understand?



Unskilled laborers are worth whatever employers are willing to pay them.

If your competition is willing to pay more than what pizza man is willing to pay than the only way he will be able to compete is by paying more or settling for less experienced workers.

Economics is the study of choices people make under the conditions of scarcity.

Breh it's shocking how many people in this thread don't understand this simple concept.

Somehow people think they are smart enough to own a business but are also not smart enough to understand simple economics.

 

[jerniebert]

Republicans arent dictating shyt. fukk high taxes too. I came to Cali broke and stupid. I busted my ass working, saved my pennies with my wife and got my piece, like I was taught to do by my elders.

We just disagree on the responsibilities that someone we sell out services to owe us. I don't think they owe me shyt. If you feel they owe you then join a union and make them. More power to you. Let me go tell my jiujitsu coach he owe money cuz I helped do warmups for the class. Please.


Profit sharing is best in companies like manufacturing where your life is at risk, youre breathing toxic air, while busting your ass doing tasks that only appear easy to people that are in it or on the outside. McDonald's franchises that make 150k a year cannot afford to profit share and pay 25 dollars an hour to 8 employees with benefits. Small family businesses definitely can't afford it.

For profit sharing to be a national policy there has to be less options for work and you are dependant on mega corporations for your existence. We aren't there yet. There's 9 million unfilled jobs. We need hungry people for ideas or we become a nation that doesn't innovate shyt and lose our hunger for more

Everyone who hasn't built their little empire from nothing can say what they'd do but I'm not seeing many that do, even when they came from nothing. That's theirs. Get yours or buy stock when they sell to the public.

My goal is to die comfortable and leave whatever I have to my kids and family so they can do as I did. If I'm lucky my side work will pop off and I can get out the rat race. Success to me is just being able to provide without having to hate on the next man or expect something from others and I felt like that at my brokest

I get it you picked yourself up by your bootstraps. Nobody is knocking whatever success or happiness you have in life. Everyone has their own vision of success. For some it's drinking and getting high all day but you're in here trying to present your opinion as facts while knocking anybody down who hasn't reached your level of your own determined success.

I never said anybody owed me shyt except for the money and benefits I agreed to when I accepted my job or any jobs I do in the future. I'm an engineer who only has a culinary degree. If you want to give your services away to your BJJ coach then that's on you. I don't believe in unpaid internships either.

Hungry people come when they feel respected and are treated right. Pay and benefits included. We downplay education and put people in debt before they even get a chance to succeed. How are we going to innovate when we don't even offer the right tools and resources to do it? All these Reagan policies and ideas you keep repeating are the reason we're in the shyt hole we're in now.

 

[Mowgli]

I get it you picked yourself up by your bootstraps. Nobody is knocking whatever success or happiness you have in life. Everyone has their own vision of success. For some it's drinking and getting high all day but you're in here trying to present your opinion as facts while knocking anybody down who hasn't reached your level of your own determined success.

I never said anybody owed me shyt except for the money and benefits I agreed to when I accepted my job or any jobs I do in the future. I'm an engineer who only has a culinary degree. If you want to give your services away to your BJJ coach then that's on you. I don't believe in unpaid internships either.

Hungry people come when they feel respected and are treated right. Pay and benefits included. We downplay education and put people in debt before they even get a chance to succeed. How are we going to innovate when we don't even offer the right tools and resources to do it? All these Reagan policies and ideas you keep repeating are the reason we're in the shyt hole we're in now.

What Reagan policies and ideas am I repeating specifically. I don't see it.

Ronald Reagan sold manufacturing jobs to foreigners.

I believe in safety nets. I don't have a problem with profit sharing for mega corps.

What I don't believe in is outright communism in America. That can never be allowed to happen.