A Chicago pizzeria said it temporarily closed because of the labor shortage, costing it $5,000. Its

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Don't like that this is devolving (lol TLR) into Big vs Small business. Not every company is going to be a success. Some will teeth for longer, or not at all. This goes across both sizes. Sears once owned the tallest building in the world, and look at them now. Not everyone is going to succeed, but I think we can all agree workers should receive a living wage and better environments. Restaurants are notoriously toxic.

Also, I don't see how people make cases for businesses like the one in OP with Coalfire. They have multiple locations, all placed in densely affluent areas in Chicago, and I can't muster up a boo-hoo because people don't want to work there. They have enough cash to keep their locations where they are. They should match the higher wages and blaze trails.
 

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the more these lazy small business owners decide to complain about having no employees
Its going to in the end push more people to not want to work for them.

I wouldn't want to work for someone who is complaining about having all his employees quit on him. If the job was good and the industry was in demand he wouldn't have a peep to say but because the dems have instituted a few options for side income
these low wage jobs are getting culled the most
 

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@Mowgli

If you don’t think that small businesses should have to bear the weight of increasing prices of healthcare and rent etc, what should the minimum wage be linked to if not current economic conditions?

Imagine if the government overnight reduced all rents to 2008 prices and froze the increases indefinitely. Wouldn’t that alone transfer much needed finances to the worker class at the expense of those who have consistently profited for the last 13 years? Would you support that instead of a higher minimum wage than 18?

@Mowgli all up in his feelings, because employees finally won something. The nikka negged me, because I pointed out that in a free market economy broke ass employers are supposed to close shop because they can not compete and they don't have the money to keep their doors open, which is why companies resort to illegal immigrants. Broke employers closing is what keeps the economy strong, because employers that stay in business will now pay employees more which will increase production and satisfaction in the overall economy.
 

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What happens when there's more bills then money in your pocket ?

What happens when you think you're playing on the same playing field as a cac socialist ?

Then you go to work for a company that can use your services. That is what the free market economy is about.

I know that I am not playing on the same field as any cac whether socialist or free market. I am looking at it from the standpoint of workers who have had stagnant wages for decades, while the rich owner class got richer. The shyt has finally hit the fan and the rich owners have to come up off some money to keep making that money.
 

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@Mowgli all up in his feelings, because employees finally won something. The nikka negged me, because I pointed out that in a free market economy broke ass employers are supposed to close shop because they can not compete and they don't have the money to keep their doors open, which is why companies resort to illegal immigrants. Broke employers closing is what keeps the economy strong, because employers that stay in business will now pay employees more which will increase production.
I negged you because you called me a name before making a point I would have otherwise responded to. I don't like that. :francis:
Don't ever, and I mean ever, call me a damn name then type a paragraph. It's disrespectful.
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Black people holding out for a dramatic wage shift to then compete with non blacks is a dangerous game I don't think most of us can afford to play. If you're a kid living with mom's ok but if you have kids and bills with no job, not so much. Plenty of jobs waiting for people talking that shyt that they can't find work. To wait to be paid 50k for work that is easily replaceable may effect us more then others but like you said it's a choice.:yeshrug: I just don't like seeing nikkas out of work
 

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So why don't y'all give up more of your check then?

you already are giving up part of your check to subsidize these corporations wage expenses.

the propaganda you're spreading is that a full-time job shouldn't provide any person no matter the occupation a living wage. These companies already know what they pay workers isn't enough to live on.

Federal Social Safety Net Programs: Millions of Full-Time Workers Rely on Federal Health Care and Food Assistance Programs
Study: Taxpayers subsidize “starvation wages” at McDonald's, Walmart

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The report found that, in every state studied, Walmart was one of the top four employers whose workers rely on food stamps and Medicaid. McDonald's is among the most subsidized employers in at least nine states.

Walmart employs about 14,500 workers in Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nebraska, North Carolina, Tennessee and Washington who rely on Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits, the study showed, while McDonald's employs about 8,780 SNAP recipients in those states.

More than 2% of the Walmart workforce in states like Georgia and Oklahoma have had to rely on Medicaid benefits, a number that rises to more than 3% in Arkansas, where the company is based.

Other corporate giants who have a large number of workers relying on federal benefits included Amazon, Dollar Tree, Dollar General, Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, Subway, Uber, FedEx, Target, Dunkin' Donuts, CVS, Home Depot, and Lowe's.

The report cited data taken before the coronavirus pandemic hit, noting that the issues have likely grown worse.

"The economic effects of the covid-19 pandemic have further exacerbated conditions for these workers, increasing the importance of federal and state safety net programs to help them meet their basic needs," the report said.
 

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I negged you because you called me a name before making a point I would have otherwise responded to. I don't like that. :francis:
Don't ever, and I mean ever, call me a damn name then type a paragraph. It's disrespectful.
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Black people holding out for a dramatic wage shift to then compete with non blacks is a dangerous game I don't think most of us can afford to play. Plenty of jobs waiting for people talking that shyt that they can't find work. To wait to be paid 50k for work that is easily replaceable may effect us more then others but like you said it's a choice.:yeshrug: I just don't like seeing nikkas out of work

Well you were being dumb as Hell about the free market economy. :manny:

Y'all can not be mad at employees for taking higher wages. They are doing exactly what you are supposed to do in a free market economy.

Broke employers don't have a right to be in business and entitled to employees. You definitely don't want broke employers thinking that they are entitled to Black people as employees because that is how you will keep Black people in the underclass.

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Well you were being dumb as Hell about the free market economy. :manny:

Y'all can not be mad at employees for taking higher wages. They are doing exactly what you are supposed to do in a free market economy.

Broke employers don't have a right to be in business and entitled to employees. You definitely don't want broke employers thinking that they are entitled to Black people as employees because that is how you will keep Black people in the underclass.

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I'm not mad. That's not trash money based on the owners description. Hire some 18 years olds he'll be ok
 

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Unlike the many Socialist wannabe idiots on this board screaming “fukk owners and landlords!”, this is actually a great post that I agree with.
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Bro… Yes, everyone should be able to provide for themselves at a bare minimum. BUT everyone is not going to be able to purchase a new Tesla and buy a luxury condo. A lot of this bullshyt is based on jealousy and envy. Clowns working at Subway, yet expecting/demanding to live the lifestyle of a professional. It’s blatant entitlement.

No…you make mediocre sandwiches for a living, so you will be in a basic ass apartment and driving a Corolla (if you’re lucky). Yes, I 100% agree that livable wages should be provided to everyone, and I think that they should be increased to a certain extent. You’ll have the basic necessities covered (as you should), but you will not have what you see that medical professional has. That’s just how it is, and that’s how it’ll remain.


stop projecting, no one is protesting the cost of a tesla or voicing jealousy. they are protesting for affordable housing and decent public transportation.
 

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I'm not mad. That's not trash money based on the owners description. Hire some 18 years olds he'll be ok

It is trash money if the cost of living in the City where the 18 year old lives is expensive as Hell. That 18 year old would be crazy to work for $21.00 an hour if he/she could walk right up the street and make $26.00 per hour to do the same job. The employer that pays that higher rate knows that he has to pay a premium to get employees in this market.
 

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you already are giving up part of your check to subsidize these corporations wage expenses.

the propaganda you're spreading is that a full-time job shouldn't provide any person no matter the occupation a living wage. These companies already know what they pay workers isn't enough to live on.

Federal Social Safety Net Programs: Millions of Full-Time Workers Rely on Federal Health Care and Food Assistance Programs
Study: Taxpayers subsidize “starvation wages” at McDonald's, Walmart

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Your post would be accurate if there weren't already living wage jobs. What are people doing where they can't find those jobs? My brother went from 8.50 to 19, and now got job interviews coming up that start at $60k minimum.

Plenty of living wage jobs out there already, so I don't see what's the big deal y'all making
 

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Crabs in a fukkin barrel

Who cares if the person at McDonalds getting $30/hour to flip burgers. That money ain’t coming out your check
what's funny is the same people that claim they don't eat McDonalds, use "the price of Big Macs will go up" as their go to example.
 
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