A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

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College and school is a scam. Invest in a business or property and learn the ins and outs of it by yourself. Better off then being in debt with nothing to show for.
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95% of people don’t have the discipline to teach themselves basic personal finance let alone how to properly run a business. School exists for a reason.

Imagine “investing” in a property and you can’t read contracts, understand how to calculate return, or keep track of financial statements.
 

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You right, there is a cap once you are in certain companies if you don't have a degree. The main issue I am describe is a bachelor degree, overall it seems like it is losing it's value. Feel like companies are requiring additional education/skills/experiences for jobs where you would have just needed that degree years ago. Feels like it's a gatekeeping thing to keep Black people out :jbhmm:

It is. The service economy is making working and middle class people fighting for scraps. The words "social mobility" dont exist anymore, for a good reason.
 

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I can only guess that people think this way because from college to career there's no defined path. People want to be hand held or they get lost real quick. Whereas with vocations or trades, it's a little more defined. I say every time with college, ask yourself what you wanna be when you grow up and then work backwards from there. Wanna be a lawyer? Gotta pass the bar. How are you gonna pass the bar? Gotta go to law school. How do you get to law school? Need to pass the LSAT and have some sort of undergrad degree. What undergrad degree? Philosophy, Pre Law, Political Science, etc. Now you know the major beats, you can fill in the blanks. It's not easy by any means, but it's also not complicated.


You'd have to teach these principles to at least two generations of adults before it can get disseminated effectively to young people.
 

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Grad school is an entirely different story breh. If you're going to law school you're earning a doctorate. You should expect to pay a high fee for the quality of education alone.

I'm paying out the ass for business school right now. I know what I'm getting myself into and why it costs what it does.

People outside of America arent crippled with student debt. People are pissed off and, I wouldnt even be shocked if violence started popping off on college campuses on a regular basis
 

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Not going to college is the best move I ever made, I’m 23 to put things in perspective

All the fear tactics they use to shove down our throats in high school to make it seem like college is the only way to make a decent living

doing better than anyone I know with a 4 year degree
 

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:mjlol:

95% of people don’t have the discipline to teach themselves basic personal finance let alone how to properly run a business. School exists for a reason.

Imagine “investing” in a property and you can’t read contracts, understand how to calculate return, or keep track of financial statements.


A person can learn it on their own if they really want it.
 

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We do need to guide our black men and women before they get to high school with transcendent goals. Going to school to get a job isn't good enough.

We should be going to school with the mindset of ruling the world and industries. I bet you the careers we enter would be a lot different than it is now.

Side note: I'm one of 3 black men in my STEM program, 5 black people in total.
 

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Didn't read the thread but this goes way deeper than school! Also, it's not a uniquely American problem. Men in a lot of countries are just giving up on life in a massive way. Off the top of my head countries that I have lived in the same thing happening. America, Canada, China, Taiwan. It has to do with fathers not being around their sons. Have a private school in Asia, we started noticing only girls were in the top end of the classes, and we checked back with our stats and everyone was saying the same things. It's a massive problem. We dug in and read!

Two factors:

  1. Boys need a mission larger than themselves in life and have been told that masculinity is no longer needed which is somewhat true in the future. So fathers need to talk to their sons and make them understand there is a greater purpose.
  2. Fathers need to be around their sons as much as possible, simple talk at the table when eating with your son has lasting effects.
Two books highlight this we found.
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The last book should be required reading for any parent that has a boy. This problem hasn't hit our community in full swing cause we have other problems but it's coming for young brothers and our future brothers for sure. The last book made us change ways in our schools and me change ways how I talk to my cousins and younger boys in my family.

Edit: if anyone wants a copy of the audiobook just link me in the pm on a mission to make everyone aware of this problem.
 
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Dallas' 4 Eva

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Didn't read the thread but this goes way deeper than school! Also, it's not a uniquely American problem. Men in a lot of countries are just giving up on life in a massive way. Off the top of my head countries that I have lived in the same thing happening. America, Canada, China, Taiwan. It has to do with fathers not being around their sons. Have a private school in Asia, we started noticing only girls were in the top end of the classes, and we checked back with our stats and everyone was saying the same things. It's a massive problem. We dug in and read!

Two factors:

  1. Boys need a mission larger than themselves in life and have been told that masculinity is no longer needed which is so what true in the future. So fathers need to talk to their sons and make them understand there is a greater purpose.
  2. Fathers need to be around their sons as much as possible, simple talk at the table when eating with your son has lasting effects.
Two books highlight this we found.
81RfAV-oO1L.jpg


71cy1laYRuS.jpg


The last book should be required reading for any parent that has a boy. This problem hasn't hit our community in full swing cause we have other problems but it's coming for young brothers and our future brothers for sure.

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