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MS could learn a lesson from how Apple phased out the CD/DVD drive.

Kept making everything available electronically until one day their computers didn't have a CD/DVD and most consumers were like :manny:

then :myman: at the lighter build and increased battery life...
 

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but thats my point and you still don't see it

Xbox's gameplan behind this shyt was literally the tail wagging the dog. If Sony doesn't go digital, PUBLISHERS WON'T GO DIGITAL. Sony won the consumer war by simply doing nothing. 100% the tortoise and the hare.

Where is the market research that shows that consumers are willing to switch to DRM? Why would a publisher create a DRM only product if nobody is going to buy it....*crickets*

Thats fine if its an OPTION. But once you made it mandatory, the consumer is just going to exercise their power of the purse and not buy your product. And you already lagged against your competition!

How do you not SEE how stupid it is to make it MANDATORY? You're supposed to phase in this kind of change. Capture the market in the opening launch by making them get your system. Then AFTER they already bought your system, and made significant time/monetary investment, introduce some small title DRM games. Then have a totally new blockbuster game, that builds a totally new user base through DRM. Boom 5 year plan. Everybody is on it.

This shyt is stupid.
the market research is on the PC games that have gone DRM, its on digital music thats DRM. i mean i can go on and on. DIGITAL is the wave of the future. sony will bend or break eventually.

sony won a small battle. but unless they revamp their situation they will lose the war.
remember sony was in dire need of winning a battle, any battle. they had to have this. xbox wanted to win the war. they are heading in that direction even with the flack.
 

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the market research is on the PC games that have gone DRM, its on digital music thats DRM. i mean i can go on and on. DIGITAL is the wave of the future. sony will bend or break eventually.

sony won a small battle. but unless they revamp their situation they will lose the war.
remember sony was in dire need of winning a battle, any battle. they had to have this. xbox wanted to win the war. they are heading in that direction even with the flack.
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All this talk about DRM....have people forgot the ps4 has the better GPU and TWICE the ram potential? That's the main reason I'm copping. Y'all talking bout trading and games in shyt. What about the fact Microsoft is still using ddr3 and ps4 using 8gigs of GDR and not allocating 3 gigs to the os?

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MS could learn a lesson from how Apple phased out the CD/DVD drive.

Kept making everything available electronically until one day their computers didn't have a CD/DVD and most consumers were like :manny:

then :myman: at the lighter build and increased battery life...
dont act like we were not PISSED about Itunes and that DRM crap when it came to music. we were HOT back then as well. thats cause napster and the likes showed us a different way years before itunes came along trying to lock everything down.

MS is doing the opposite. they are getting ahead of it and locking it down early.

how many times did we say even as stealing consumers of music "man the recording industry was so late to digital media. they should've been up on itunes 5 years prior or 10 years prior." well ms is doing just that.
 

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All this talk about DRM....have people forgot the ps4 has the better GPU and TWICE the ram potential? That's the main reason I'm copping. Y'all talking bout trading and games in shyt. What about the fact Microsoft is still using ddr3 and ps4 using 8gigs of GDR and not allocating 3 gigs to the os?

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you do realize the ps3 was the better SYSTEM as well right? you do realize you could barely tell on certain games right? so for the most part if you polled 100 people. 80% of them would say they had the identical same experience on the ps3 as they had on the 360 assuming they played the same game on both systems.

but what the xbox1 is doing with their online gaming(300k servers) and the cloud. those two things alone will tremendously help gaming.

let me give u a little geek boy talk.

the ps4 is superior to the xbox 1. that goes without saying and anyone saying otherwise is a liar. now we're talking TECH SPECS only.

but with that said. the ps4 isnt 3 times better then the 360. its not even 2 times better. its percentages better from a bare TECH spec.

but again that wont show up in game or game play or graphics to the point where you will go :whoo:

what the xbox1 has done with the 300k servers and the cloud computing. is they are getting rid of the bottlekneck effect.

be honest do you think PSN is on par with xbox live? NO
do you think the new psn is on par with 300k servers + cloud computing? HELLZ NO.

guess what direction gaming is going in? multiplayer online gaming.

guess what xbox just made a lot better? multiplayer online gaming.

the great graphics that these companies made for the game that gets degraded due to a lack of server strength will not be the problem that it was with the 360. or the problem that it will most likely be with the ps4. because of the 300k servers + cloud computing.

what im telling you is something computer geeks know when building a pc or upgrading a pc. there is a couple of ways to increase performance of your PC.

if you dont like that it takes to long for your website to come up, what do you do?
some people will get an entirely new computer. that will help. More ram, faster harddrive, faster motherboard for the ram and the harddrive. you will see a difference.

but what would significantly increase the speed in which the websites come up? if someone was fixed on the server side and some pressure was taking off of my pc at home. thats exactly what MS is doing.

There's no reason to get a 8 core processor when you ave 512 mb of ram. the ram will be the bottle kneck.

there's no reason to get 8 core processor 8 gigs of ram super fast hard drive, but you dont have the serve capacity to deal with the new LARGER games that you can now develop for the console. the better the console, the larger the games will be from a file prospective, the more computations have to be done. sure the console can do it when you play at home by yourself or with a friend in the same room. but the moment you go online. with your same internet connect you had last year. not bad, but not great. you have more data being transferred thru the same connection. guess whats going to happen? its going to slow down.

its like watching a 1080p movie in 3D stutter the entire time. what difference does it make thats it looks great if it stutters the entire time?

when you could be playing a 720p game in 3D with zero stutter.
dont get caught up in the tech specs until you weight how it will effect YOUR gaming experience in every condition. console only, then online. if you dont play online. GET THAT ps4. but if you play online heavy? GET that box.
 

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better re-up this thread in a year cause somebody who's a die hard of either system will be taking a serious
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dont get caught up in the tech specs until you weight how it will effect YOUR gaming experience in every condition. console only, then online. if you dont play online. GET THAT ps4. but if you play online heavy? GET that box.

with me, there was no change in my online gaming experience. only main difference i noticed was cacs were a lot more bigoted on xbox live, and psn didn't have party chat; that's it.

i actually never understood the xbl hype. it's restrictive, filled with ads, and looks like it was designed for teens. my xmb on ps3 is customizable, simple, and gets my media needs done nicely. it's cool xbox decided to join the rest of us with blu-ray though :laugh:

edit: :laugh: @ you're overhyping the shyt out of cloud computing. xbox is going to max out 3 years into its life cycle
 

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Son...Jesus can come and explain it to them and they won't get it..and these are supposed GAMERS...imagine when the casual market or parents get ahold to this shyt for their kids...there's gonna be an outrage..Lmao...

Dude I didn't even think about that.....

Hows this shyt better for kids? lol I'm only 24, my parents bought both of my xbox's for me in high school.

I was already alienated because everyone else had ps2/ps3. This is really going to be something!
 

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I don't really have anything to add except that I think that is great info.
 

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If game publishers lose money. Less games get made. Fine. Maybe we don't need so many games. Way too many "me too breh's" on the shelf. Companies trying to make a buck and not a good game.

So let's say XB1's plan stops both "used games" and piracy (stay with me), how long until we see $40 games vs $60? How long until game companies pay their people better and invest more time to put into development which will create better games?

Don't hold your breath on this one.
 

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If game publishers lose money. Less games get made. Fine. Maybe we don't need so many games. Way too many "me too breh's" on the shelf. Companies trying to make a buck and not a good game.

So let's say XB1's plan stops both "used games" and piracy (stay with me), how long until we see $40 games vs $60? How long until game companies pay their people better and invest more time to put into development which will create better games?

Don't hold your breath on this one.

Microsoft won't allow developers to self publish either, which is something Sony is allowing which is brilliant. There is going to be a middle ground on PS4 between the PSN & Big bugget games because of those very same developers being allowed to publish their games.
 

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If game publishers lose money. Less games get made. Fine. Maybe we don't need so many games. Way too many "me too breh's" on the shelf. Companies trying to make a buck and not a good game.

So let's say XB1's plan stops both "used games" and piracy (stay with me), how long until we see $40 games vs $60? How long until game companies pay their people better and invest more time to put into development which will create better games?

Don't hold your breath on this one.

exactly

they're trying to make it seem like used games are the problem. the real problem is they spend more money to market an AAA game than it cost to make the game. if the game is good, it'll make it's money. like you said, we've got far too many generic "me too" titles on the shelves.
 
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