A Serious Discussion on the Homicide Rate in the Black Community

[EBK String]

Breh, are you saying good black folk in the hood are the outliers??? No the fukk they arent. Most people in the hood are good-great people. Where were you raised??

Thugs are the exceptions and outliers, but they have a grip over the community. How do you not know this?

everybody who does something illegal isn't a thug.

 

[invalid]

Just because you aren't a criminal doesn't mean you aren't in situations where you can be charged for a crime or make a mistake. I could be used as a example of people from the hood who didn't become a criminal but there are plenty of situations where I could have been killed or got a record. You don't know people's stories. It is far more gray than you are making it.

Your thread title doesn’t make it appear that you are talking about petty crime. Petty crime is everywhere including in places like Naperville. I’m not talking about nikkas selling dime bags.

 

[THE MACHINE]

everybody who does something illegal isn't a thug.

Exactly, which is why I say the thugs are the outliers

 

[Mowgli]

 

[Tribal Outkast]

The police WILL get this funding and the people who will be disproportionately impacted by the increased policing will want them to get that funding because they are fed up and want immediate solutions. While the solutions you proposed may be the right solutions, they require time.

The police have been fighting for funding and pay raises this whole time. Throughout all the protests and shyt. They definitely are going to get it and it’s going to be interesting out here. People don’t pay attention to their city/county council meetings or watch the news or anything so I’ll just shut up.

 

[EBK String]

Your thread title doesn’t make it appear that you are talking about petty crime. Petty crime is everywhere including in places like Naperville. I’m not talking about nikkas selling dime bags.

All the project people that moved into the south suburbs you just shyt on aren't violent criminals so what are you talking about?

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

The problem with the harsh on crime brigade is that their solutions will create long term problems for a short albeit tough situation. Prior to coronavirus crime was dramatically decreasing in all of these major cities yet their solutions (harsher jail sentences, tougher judges, militarization of the police, etc) will take at least 10-15 years minimum to change.

 

[Supa cat]

Op saying all this but I promise you he’s not doing anything for the community, nikka can’t even help himself look at him a jobless bum that lies about his life and be on here all day making threads

 

[Wildhundreds]

Op saying all this but I promise you he’s not doing anything for the community, nikka can’t even help himself look at him a jobless bum that lies about his life and be on here all day making threads

Doing absolutely nothing..

He probably don't even know a ward remap is happening in his city and black aldermen will lose some of their wards to mexicans.

 

[DonRe]

These conversation sometimes veer to bad faith arguments and becomes an emotional reaction. Rather than a nuanced/logical path towards concrete solutions.

you cant argue the homicide rates especially towards ppl that look like you.

you cant argue high unemployment rates

you cant argue gentrification

you cant argue poverty #’s

you cant argue stagnant wages

you cant argue redlining and general racist policies in local/federal gov’t


But what can be done is discuss solutions to overcome these things and actually go out there and try to influence change. And even that becomes muddled when you have to sit down with the opps and try to make peace. In every respect.

 

[Samori Toure]

Unfortunately a lot of people have shytty parents, but that by itself isn't a motive for killing someone. The vast majority of people in that situation don't commit homicide.

I'm not trying to say that doesn't matter, but I'm wanting to know what the actual, direct motives usually are for killing people. Is it usually just gang bullshyt? I'm legitimately curious.

There maybe a difference between having shytty parents versus essentially having no parents at all, which is what I am getting at when speaking about abandoned, abused and neglected children. You would have to define shytty, because not all shytty parents abandon, abuse and/or neglect their children and on top of that if the parents are not present then a caretaker that provides a positive environment can be a good substitute.

My personal opinion is that a lot of behaviors that kids exhibit is based upon things that they learn in their formative years, which is from birth until they are about 8 years old. I think that is is when you really have to catch children to make a difference in their lives, because if they are cared for and taught well in their formative years then they are likely to act in a positive manner rather than in a self destructive manner. I go back back to the fault being in parenting, because some people are ill equipped to be parents and their dysfunction impact their children.

 

[EBK String]

Doing absolutely nothing..

He probably don't even know a ward remap is happening in his city and black aldermen will lose some of their wards to mexicans.

They aren't losing them they are giving them away.

 

[Samori Toure]

You talk about these killers/ thieves in the community and these fools act as if you’ve insulted their mother

You might have, because their mothers might have knowingly or unknowingly taught them similar shyt. Maybe those dudes see themselves in those killers and thieves.

 

[Dad]

Your job is part of the problem

BTW OP is a c00n & a troll. Don’t take this lame seriously.

 

[Wildhundreds]

They aren't losing them they are giving them away.

So while you're crying about white people, your own leaders selling you up a river. But you nut hug the party they represent.