Adam Silver Defends NBA's Second Apron Era Amid Player Criticism

[Double Burger With Cheese]

There's no cap in MLB but there's no salary floor either. Here's the top 5 and the bottom 5. People really want this type of disparity in the NBA?

New York Mets, $323,099,999
Los Angeles Dodgers, $321,287,291
New York Yankees, $293,488,972
Philadelphia Phillies, $284,210,820
Toronto Blue Jays, $239,642,532

Pittsburgh Pirates, $87,645,246
Chicago White Sox, $82,279,825
Tampa Bay Rays, $79,216,312
Athletics, $73,118,981
Miami Marlins, $67,412,619

The NBA has never had a salary cap and you’ve had people complain about teams tanking and some owners unwilling to open up the checkbook to build a contender for years. So some teams spending more and trying harder than others will be a thing with or without a salary cap.

Also, the Detroit Tigers are 17th in payroll and have the best record in baseball at the moment

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

As long as the cap goes up 10 percent a year. Things will be fine

It's not and we're already seeing it now.

 

[Wolfpac]

The teams that aren't even tryin is what makes me puke.

Baseball needs a salary floor if anything....

 

[Rekkapryde]

Baseball needs a salary floor if anything....

100%

 

[tremonthustler1]

The NBA has never had a salary cap and you’ve had people complain about teams tanking and some owners unwilling to open up the checkbook to build a contender for years. So some teams spending more and trying harder than others will be a thing with or without a salary cap.

Also, the Detroit Tigers are 17th in payroll and have the best record in baseball at the moment

Because the randomness of baseball is conducive to it (and the best player on the team makes $10.1 mil this year)

Without a salary cap, the Charlotte's of the league have no incentive to pay anyone and the really special players they have they wouldn't be able to afford.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Because the randomness of baseball is conducive to it (and the best player on the team makes $10.1 mil this year)

Without a salary cap, the Charlotte's of the league have no incentive to pay anyone and the really special players they have they wouldn't be able to afford.

Thats a scenario you hypothesized while a fact is that the 17th ranked team by payroll has the best record in the MLB. It’s not remotely possible someone can convince me that the NBA would fall apart if they removed the salary cap.

 

[In The Zone '98]

Thats a scenario you hypothesized while a fact is that the 17th ranked team by payroll has the best record in the MLB. It’s not remotely possible someone can convince me that the NBA would fall apart if they removed the salary cap.

It would definitely kill the Raptors

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

It would definitely kill the Raptors

First of all, I wanna say I’m not being obtuse. I understand the concerns of having a salary cap. There will be pros and cons to every system. What I don’t respect is people creating these doomsday scenarios where just the thought of having no salary cap would effectively destroy the league. That’s simply not true at all. Does baseball have rules in place to limit the negative effects of not having a salary cap? Yes they do. Would the NBA be able to not have a salary cap and put some of those same things in place? Yes they can.

It’s a reason most players are in favor of no salary cap. Because it’s simply not fair to cap how much money someone can earn. Especially when there is no salary cap for owners

 

[KFBF]

As long as the cap goes up 10 percent a year. Things will be fine

Its not going up 10% this year. I think it's 7.something. Teams are reportedly operating as if increases will be closer to the number than 10.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Thats a scenario you hypothesized while a fact is that the 17th ranked team by payroll has the best record in the MLB. It’s not remotely possible someone can convince me that the NBA would fall apart if they removed the salary cap.

Except you can’t compare baseball with hoops.

They’re both predicated on completely different spectrums of variance and randomization. There’s a reason why there are a 100 scoring possessions on average in a NBA game, yet only a handful in a MLB game.

In no competitive* world would a NBA team with the 17th-most talented roster end up having the best record, when all the true stars were all on the best 3-4 teams.

That’s like trying to argue Podz, Mathurin, McDaniels, Aldama and Hartenstein would beat an All-Star team in a series.

 

[No1]

Because the randomness of baseball is conducive to it (and the best player on the team makes $10.1 mil this year)

Without a salary cap, the Charlotte's of the league have no incentive to pay anyone and the really special players they have they wouldn't be able to afford.

Not true. Number one, you institute a salary floor and moreover, there’s only so much a team would be willing to spend. There’s no scenario where a team could afford Steph, KD and LeBron especially with their salary tax thresholds. You would need players to agree to all sorts of payments schemes like you do in MLB. And that’s really not happening all that often until later in someone’s career.

Let’s say the Clippers decide to pay for Kawhi, Embiid, LeBron and Giannis - what type of pay cut do you think those guys are taking? You’re almost necessarily in the most punitive tax brackets. Who besides Ballmer is eating that for more than a year or two?

Every NBA owner has spent when they think they can win and then they dial back when they think they can’t. I don’t see any reason why that would change.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Except you can’t compare baseball with hoops.

They’re both predicated on completely different spectrums of variance and randomization. There’s a reason why there are a 100 scoring possessions on average in a NBA game, yet only a handful in a MLB game.

In no competitive* world would a NBA team with the 17th-most talented roster end up having the best record, when all the true stars were all on the best 3-4 teams.

That’s like trying to argue Podz, Mathurin, McDaniels, Aldama and Hartenstein would beat an All-Star team in a series.

The NBA Pacers made the NBA finals and almost won this year with the 17th ranked payroll in the league

 

[tremonthustler1]

Not true. Number one, you institute a salary floor and moreover, there’s only so much a team would be willing to spend. There’s no scenario where a team could afford Steph, KD and LeBron especially with their salary tax thresholds. You would need players to agree to all sorts of payments schemes like you do in MLB. And that’s really not happening all that often until later in someone’s career.

Let’s say the Clippers decide to pay for Kawhi, Embiid, LeBron and Giannis - what type of pay cut do you think those guys are taking? You’re almost necessarily in the most punitive tax brackets. Who besides Ballmer is eating that for more than a year or two?

Every NBA owner has spent when they think they can win and then they dial back when they think they can’t. I don’t see any reason why that would change.

when the only punishment WAS the luxury tax, Joe Lacob told the world "IDGAF," which is why we're here now.

as for deferrals, would some players consider it? Absolutely. Ohtani took deferrals because he made so much off endorsements that he wouldn't notice his Dodgers check til his final year, NBA players who get crazy endorsement money would definitely try to mess with the payroll if it meant it could bring along someone else.