Africa a little 100 years ago.

[Cobalt Sire]

Except they were either long gone by the time colonization occurred or shells of themselves. Timing is important.


Breh... You do know that Europe has many religions and its inhabitants slaughtered, enslaved and exiled each others over those, right? I agree with you on the need for unity of today, but post above is not true.

Plus, majority of African rulers applied the same rule to protect their own. Key thing is their own didn't mean black, just as Christian (which doesn't mean all Christian in reality) doesn't mean white.

Slavery and Abolition in Islamic Africa, 1776–1905 (Chapter 15) - The Cambridge World History of Slavery

African Resistance - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

"In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion. The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church. From birth to death, whether a peasant, a serf, a noble a lord or a King - life was dominated by the church and Medieval religion."

Medieval Religion

It was pretty hard if not impossible to find a European person who wasn't Christian back then. Meanwhile, it was very easy to find African people to enslave. To me, it's clear that European leaders didn't want their people to be sold to outsiders. They didn't mind if they were sold to other Europeans.
There was nothing in Africa that unified most black people. I understand some African leaders took measures to stop slavery, but 20 million people got sold to outsiders with disastrous effects.

 

[DJK]

For all those saying the problem with Africa is lack of unity, consider this:

Africa measured is 30.3 million Km squared.
China is 9.6 million Km squared
USA is 9.8 million km squared
Europe is 10.1 million Km squared
South America is 17.8 million Km squared
Russia is 17.1 million Km squared
Greenland, despite looking the close in size on common maps, is 1/14th the size of Africa at 2.2 million km squared.

Africa land area is enough to fit the U.S., China, India, Japan, Mexico, and most of Europe combined.
Given such a large geographic footprint, spanning many different terrains and climates, the notion that Africa would or could ever have formed a united front against foreigners is preposterous.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Ethiopians made a deal with the British. All the colonisers were competing with each other. Italians captured Ethiopia but the Brits came to their aid. Ethiopia is also not a unified country, it's over 82 tribes forced to be part of what is now known as Ethiopia. A lot of fighting goes on there. A civil war will kick off in that region in a couple of years.

a lot of you keep calling people tribes, tribes is literally the wrong word to be using here

 

[Cobalt Sire]

no they weren't there was literal kingdom in here, some of you are showing yourselves in this thread. how knowledgeable are you even to speak on africa

I said countries. That's the same thing. By the way, you missed the point. There was nothing that united most Africans. Most of Europe was united with Christianity by the middle ages. Black Africans weren't united against an enemy that wanted to destroy all of them. That was a mistake.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

a lot of you keep calling people tribes, tribes is literally the wrong word to be using here

Ethnicities? But that's tomayto-tomaato, isn't it?

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

I said countries. That's the same thing. By the way, you missed the point. There was nothing that united most Africans. Most of Europe was united with Christianity by the middle ages. Black Africans weren't united against an enemy that wanted to destroy all of them. That was a mistake.

You do know islam as a religion was more advantages in unifying parts of africa since it was there before the advent of Christianity, again the real problem came from espionage as @Amestafuu (Emeritus) said

again i dont know how you except a person who lives all the way in mali to be on code with a person all the way in congo, do you know how big of a land mass difference that is

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Ethnicities? But that's tomayto-tomaato, isn't it?

no it's not very big difference, and @The Chief can explain it you better

a group of 10+million people is not a tribe, that is largely an ethnicity shyt it can even be a nation at a certain point

 

[Apollo Creed]

no it's not very big difference, and @The Chief can explain it you better

a group of 10+million people is not a tribe, that is largely an ethnicity shyt it can even be a nation at a certain point

Family > Clan > Tribe > Ethnicity

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Family > Clan > Tribe > Ethnicity

bro i feel like you should make a thread on this so people can stop talking stupid, it's annoying at this point

 

[Cobalt Sire]

For all those saying the problem with Africa is lack of unity, consider this:

Africa measured is 30.3 million Km squared.
China is 9.6 million Km squared
USA is 9.8 million km squared
Europe is 10.1 million Km squared
South America is 17.8 million Km squared
Russia is 17.1 million Km squared
Greenland, despite looking the close in size on common maps, is 1/14th the size of Africa at 2.2 million km squared.

Africa land area is enough to fit the U.S., China, India, Japan, Mexico, and most of Europe combined.
Given such a large geographic footprint, spanning many different terrains and climates, the notion that Africa would or could ever have formed a united front against foreigners is preposterous.

Most black Africans were situated under the Saharan desert by the time whites started demanding slaves. Sub-saharan Africa measures around 21 million km. Not saying everyone needs to be kumbaya or whatever, but when an enemy shows up that hates all of you, it's in your best interest to team up. All Africa had to do was not sell their neighbors to men from far away lands that only wanted a black slave.

 

[El Bombi]

A lot of nikkasplaining in here on why African Nations weren't unified against the Europeans.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

A lot of nikkasplaining in here on why African Nations weren't unified against the Europeans.

Most black Africans were situated under the Saharan desert by the time whites started demanding slaves. Sub-saharan Africa measures around 21 million km. Not saying everyone needs to be kumbaya or whatever, but when an enemy shows up that hates all of you, it's in your best interest to team up.

a lot of you are talking in hindsight, remember this is an age of information those last 400 yrs there was no info to travel around at the speed we know now. again use your brains

and again remember the people that did TRY to get rid of them were dealt with a FORCE they have never encountered before because of guns, you need to stop making this black and white if it was that EASY we wouldn't be where we are now

 

[null]

I don't wanna start comparing the levels and magnitude of suffering

other than that you on point.

Compare the legacy of '"slavery" in Africa vs the Americas then.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Compare the legacy of '"slavery" in Africa vs the Americas then.

no

have fun with that

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

A lot of nikkasplaining in here on why African Nations weren't unified against the Europeans.

a simple minds outlook