African Americans are the only racial group in U.S. still making less than they did in 2000

[DEAD7]

u better off doing like @Jimi Swagger and not responding if you got nothing

You win creh

 

[hashmander]

You can focus on advancement without killing these black jobs. Its like you guys don't understand its racism that is keeping us out of the better job sectors. You think if the shyt jobs go bye-bye we will just move up... when the reality is we will be left out in the cold... or on welfare.(same thing to me)

so you really believe that the people who are only qualified for these "black jobs" as you call it are being kept out of better job sectors because of racism? i don't think any black person is against black people working. it's just that you can't expect a rise into better job sectors if you keep obsessing about how do we make sure wages are low enough and never rise so that the free market doesn't decide that the job is too expensive and isn't worth keeping around. you end up creating a hamster wheel where the people in these jobs never do anything more than that type of work. you're on some "oh we need the shytty jobs because you can't get a better job without the character building of the shytty job" nonsense. but it doesn't work like that. once people get on the dead end job treadmill they stay on hanging by a thread with no safety net. maybe their kids will be so disgusted by the their parents menial labor life and try to rise above their situation and pull themselves up by their bootstraps (or go the illegal route and get locked away or killed).

and in case you didn't know the people with these kinda jobs are still on welfare because they don't make enough to survive without it. so the govt is basically subsidizing low wage work. that's your bipartisan 90's welfare reform.

 

[DEAD7]

so you really believe that the people who are only qualified for these "black jobs" as you call it are being kept out of better job sectors because of racism?

No I believe that black people(both skilled and unskilled) are hindered from advancing up the economic ladder do to the color of their skin... and removing these low skill jobs will not suddenly remove that cism and better blacks.
Regardless of how you feel about the jobs them self or the unskilled laborers working them the policies you suggest will lower black income...



Moreover, African Americans have no bootstraps... we must be made whole by the same govt. that stripped us of everything, and elevated to a status that reflects our contributions to the building of the wealthiest nation on earth.

 

[theworldismine13]

I would comment on this subject but right now I got my mind on more important issues like DACA

 

[North of Death]

I would comment on this subject but right now I got my mind on more important issues like DACA

 

[Jimi Swagger]

still waitin for that education mr. 'educate all day',

Hehehehehe

please explain how they were 'given access to education' and what that even means in the meantime ill give the suggestions you asked for

1. Stop begging and complaining to the whiteman unless you got a law you want changed
[/QUOTE ]
Being paid like a White man ( ie. equal work for equal pay) is access. Money is access to education and is needed to raise a child prepare a child to compete at a collegiate level. Unfortunately they don't accept "love" or "bootstrap" rhetoric at the registrar's office - scholarship, grants and parent's checkbook.

Aside: Lets not mention the monies earmarked by finance for Asian American businesses while Blacks get shyt mortgages.

Advocating for Black focused policies for economic uplift and recompense in a country to bring us to equal footing in a country we built (that created the economic disparity) is considered begging? And furthermore if it is, and your people are at zero networth and locked out of capital what other measures do you suggest besides parroting amen corner generalizations.

2. We must be fathers to our children, we need more 2 parent households

Can't be a father and a husband with a 20 to 50 percent unemployment rate in urban centers. Babies don't survive off love and even the fathers who are middle income earners are not islands as wealth is a community effort. And inheriting "good character" from a two parent household is not enough to sustain

3. We need a culture that dosent teach that bad is good and good is bad

from there everything takes care of its self

Tell that to Johnny Manziel and Howie Longs shyt kids (anyone who went to St. Anne's-Belfield can tell you about them). Only difference is they came from millionaire parents. Individual efforts to don't fix systemic issues. Also when your parents know law enforcement, local officals, can afford bail and get your records expunged you get tenth chances. Those adolescent stints with the law is "boys being boys" for the wealthy and "pipeline from juvie to jail" for the poor.

u better off doing like @Jimi Swagger and not responding if you got nothing

Money to make and a spouse to fukk breh. Not pressed to respond to forum alerts nor Coli accolades.

 

[greenygreen]

Hehehehehe

Respect for answering but I disagree your stating problems and assuming its the structure of the system that's the problem and while I agree the system is not advantageous to us I don't think the system can or would even be willing to fix our problems. So why wait for somebody else when we can fix it ourselves?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

to this day I hat the categorical definition of "Asian American"

By the way, if you don't understand why I made this statement:

But according to a report co-authored by Ramakrishnan and Farah Z. Ahmed for the Center for American Progress last year, Asian Americans are actually one of the fastest-growing populations in poverty since the Great Recession. During that same Census reporting period from 2007–2011 Ramakrishnan and Ahmed showed the number of Asian Americans living in poverty rose by 37 percent — well surpassing the U.S. national increase of 27 percent. And according to the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, certain Southeast Asian groups rank among the nation’s poorest: 29.3 percent of Cambodians and 37.8 percent of Hmong live in poverty.

Poor Asian Americans are, more than any other racial/ethnic group, disproportionately concentrated in metro areas with some of the most expensive housing markets. About half of Asian Americans living in poverty live in just 10 cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, San Jose, Houston, Sacramento, Philadelphia, Boston and Seattle.

“A lot of time we Asian Americans suffer from being generalized as one group,” Tang said, pointing out that the umbrella term “Asian American” really encompasses 48 language groups. “The general public perceives [Asian as] high education, high achievement, model minority, therefore they do not have issues of poverty and homelessness.”

National poverty rates actually obscure growing Asian American poverty because there have been large influxes of highly educated, highly skilled Asian immigrants at the same time that impoverished refugee communities were fleeing to the U.S. In the 1970s and 1980s, for example, many South Asian immigrants came to the United States with high levels of education or to study in graduate programs, and so were able to enter into middle class or white collar professions. Massive numbers of Southeast Asian refugees with few resources or skills migrated during the same time frame due to wars in southeast Asia, particularly the Vietnam War. As a result, the aggregated data is skewed by the successful-outcome groups.

“Heavy over-generalization makes it difficult for many,” Tang explained. “Especially Southeast Asians, Cambodian, Hmong, Lao and Vietnamese, who came to the U.S. [as refugees] after 1975. Refugees lost their loved ones, have PTSD and a lot of different challenges.”
The Growing Poverty Crisis That Everyone Is Ignoring

 

[theworldismine13]

By the way, if you don't understand why I made this statement:

But according to a report co-authored by Ramakrishnan and Farah Z. Ahmed for the Center for American Progress last year, Asian Americans are actually one of the fastest-growing populations in poverty since the Great Recession. During that same Census reporting period from 2007–2011 Ramakrishnan and Ahmed showed the number of Asian Americans living in poverty rose by 37 percent — well surpassing the U.S. national increase of 27 percent. And according to the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, certain Southeast Asian groups rank among the nation’s poorest: 29.3 percent of Cambodians and 37.8 percent of Hmong live in poverty.

Poor Asian Americans are, more than any other racial/ethnic group, disproportionately concentrated in metro areas with some of the most expensive housing markets. About half of Asian Americans living in poverty live in just 10 cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, San Jose, Houston, Sacramento, Philadelphia, Boston and Seattle.

“A lot of time we Asian Americans suffer from being generalized as one group,” Tang said, pointing out that the umbrella term “Asian American” really encompasses 48 language groups. “The general public perceives [Asian as] high education, high achievement, model minority, therefore they do not have issues of poverty and homelessness.”

National poverty rates actually obscure growing Asian American poverty because there have been large influxes of highly educated, highly skilled Asian immigrants at the same time that impoverished refugee communities were fleeing to the U.S. In the 1970s and 1980s, for example, many South Asian immigrants came to the United States with high levels of education or to study in graduate programs, and so were able to enter into middle class or white collar professions. Massive numbers of Southeast Asian refugees with few resources or skills migrated during the same time frame due to wars in southeast Asia, particularly the Vietnam War. As a result, the aggregated data is skewed by the successful-outcome groups.

“Heavy over-generalization makes it difficult for many,” Tang explained. “Especially Southeast Asians, Cambodian, Hmong, Lao and Vietnamese, who came to the U.S. [as refugees] after 1975. Refugees lost their loved ones, have PTSD and a lot of different challenges.”
The Growing Poverty Crisis That Everyone Is Ignoring

tell em why you mad son

 

[Calmye]

Be a Democrat in 2017 brehs

 

[theworldismine13]

Be a Democrat in 2017 brehs

some of the posts in this thread are hilarious, im dying over here

 

[Calmye]

No we need pro black legislation(redress) that makes discrimination as irrelevant as possible... cause it isn't going anywhere...

No we need black folks investing in black folks. The laws are set. Nothing stopping black folks from becoming the ones hiring. I can't stand all these studies comparing AA to other ethnicities. The only way to stop discrimination is to start are own stuff. Ever other ethnicity does it. Black folks in ATL are doing it. It's not impossible we just need to do it and stop looking for government and Cacs to fix a problem

 

[Jimi Swagger]

By the way, if you don't understand why I made this statement:

But according to a report co-authored by Ramakrishnan and Farah Z. Ahmed for the Center for American Progress last year, Asian Americans are actually one of the fastest-growing populations in poverty since the Great Recession. During that same Census reporting period from 2007–2011 Ramakrishnan and Ahmed showed the number of Asian Americans living in poverty rose by 37 percent — well surpassing the U.S. national increase of 27 percent. And according to the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, certain Southeast Asian groups rank among the nation’s poorest: 29.3 percent of Cambodians and 37.8 percent of Hmong live in poverty.

Poor Asian Americans are, more than any other racial/ethnic group, disproportionately concentrated in metro areas with some of the most expensive housing markets. About half of Asian Americans living in poverty live in just 10 cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, San Jose, Houston, Sacramento, Philadelphia, Boston and Seattle.

“A lot of time we Asian Americans suffer from being generalized as one group,” Tang said, pointing out that the umbrella term “Asian American” really encompasses 48 language groups. “The general public perceives [Asian as] high education, high achievement, model minority, therefore they do not have issues of poverty and homelessness.”

National poverty rates actually obscure growing Asian American poverty because there have been large influxes of highly educated, highly skilled Asian immigrants at the same time that impoverished refugee communities were fleeing to the U.S. In the 1970s and 1980s, for example, many South Asian immigrants came to the United States with high levels of education or to study in graduate programs, and so were able to enter into middle class or white collar professions. Massive numbers of Southeast Asian refugees with few resources or skills migrated during the same time frame due to wars in southeast Asia, particularly the Vietnam War. As a result, the aggregated data is skewed by the successful-outcome groups.

“Heavy over-generalization makes it difficult for many,” Tang explained. “Especially Southeast Asians, Cambodian, Hmong, Lao and Vietnamese, who came to the U.S. [as refugees] after 1975. Refugees lost their loved ones, have PTSD and a lot of different challenges.”
The Growing Poverty Crisis That Everyone Is Ignoring

I understand that a lot of Vietnamese came over during the 70s as refugees but a generation later their median income exceeds the national average which shows social mobility meanwhile 70% of Blacks born into the middle class fall out. As far as Cambodians, they are considered "jungle" Asians anyway and there are outliers in all races. Poor Asians are that. I can understand the man's anger at the secret US bombings during Nixons administration and should take the case to World Court if he wants justice. The Japanese received reparations and are doing well.

Everyone starts at the bottom. Black people seem to stick there, Iike the black jelly beans in the jar that one wants to paraphrase former Texaco exec Robert Ulrich.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I understand that a lot of Vietnamese came over during the 70s as refugees but

The article is about other groups beside the Vietnamese though. You literally just did what the article asked you not to do.

 

[DEAD7]

No we need black folks investing in black folks. The laws are set. Nothing stopping black folks from becoming the ones hiring. I can't stand all these studies comparing AA to other ethnicities. The only way to stop discrimination is to start are own stuff. Ever other ethnicity does it. Black folks in ATL are doing it. It's not impossible we just need to do it and stop looking for government and Cacs to fix a problem