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I'm okay with anybody replacing Alicia after Girl on Fire. Holy shyt.
 

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If it's not present now, no amount of life experiences is going to put it there. Soul singers have a special ability that's really not tangible. It's that ability to connect with an audience and garner this type of response :to::noah::ohlawd: just off their vocals. It's taking the audience to "church" without even being in a church setting. Soul singers are also just as comfortable singing in front of a congregation as they are on stage at a sold out arena.


But shes only 19. Even xtina aguilera's voice got better after she went through what ever bullshyt she went through. U cant shyt on this little girl yet. Giver her time. She's never been to church like that. Shes catholic. u cant expect that shyt frm her.
GIve her time. She already has some soul. listen to her album. :yeshrug:
 

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nah...either you got it or you don't


:russ: tell that to tha cacclemore fans that stan a herb that took 4 singled for him to blow.

grande isnt a rapper. so that dont apply to her. her voice CAN get better. someone who sukks at writing CANT.
shes only 19.
 

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Not knocking Ariana...she is talented. I've been saying that to black folks for the past few years. The masses do not want to hear RnB/Soul from black folks anymore. Usher dropped one of the most successful RnB albums of all time...shyt went diamond and now that nikka has been pushed to pop.

hip hop hurt rnb more than pop
 

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:russ: tell that to tha cacclemore fans that stan a herb that took 4 singled for him to blow.

grande isnt a rapper. so that dont apply to her. her voice CAN get better. someone who sukks at writing CANT.
shes only 19.

Soul isn't about skill and technical ability its something else...the ability to emote and interpret music a certain way not described on the sheet music.
 

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Soul isn't about skill and technical ability its something else...the ability to emote and interpret music a certain way not described on the sheet music.

ariana grande cant read sheet music. :what:
shes not a classical type singer. shes frm disney. noone in that camp invested in music theory for her and smiley. so u cant bring up that argument.
and i never talked about her skill or technical ability. i said she has a little soul in her voice and with more producers shes exposed to and more life lessons, her voice will change to mosts liking.
:yeshrug:

im defending her. not trying to sell her album to u by saying she has skill and technical abiliity.
ray charles had no technical ability :usure:
neither did beethoven went he went blind.
 

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ariana grande cant read sheet music. :what:
shes not a classical type singer. shes frm disney. noone in that camp invested in music theory for her and smiley. so u cant bring up that argument.
and i never talked about her skill or technical ability. i said she has a little soul in her voice and with more producers shes exposed to and more life lessons, her voice will change to mosts liking.
:yeshrug:

im defending her. not trying to sell her album to u by saying she has skill and technical abiliity.
ray charles had no technical ability :usure:
neither did beethoven went he went blind.

:snoop: forget it, you don't understand what I'm saying


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:snoop: forget it, you don't understand what I'm saying


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no? explain it again. u said singing is MORE than technical ability. I never said she had those 2 things. Yes she has great breath control and range. something ray charles didnt have.
did ray charles hit ocataves? :usure:
can ray charles sing opera?


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why is ariana even compared to alicia keys?
she dont even play piano :stopitslime:

change the title to Mariah. cuz ariana is a little mariah who has a little soul. and will have more as she grows up. :wow:
 

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This sounds ignorant as fxck but my stance is, dark-skinned nxggaz need to take over R&B again.

I saw this coming in '05 when the likes of Chris Brown, Trey Songz started taking over.
 

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hip hop hurt rnb more than pop

I don't know what you are getting at. Hip hop is influenced by rnb.. Hip hop came from RnB and never hurt RnB breh. Hip hop is a culture that derives from black soul/rnb music, its a form of expression. Hip hop expression can be found in rock, rnb or pop. My first quote on page 1 is hard to dispute. Black artists are being slowly pushed away from RnB/Soul genre of music by the big labels, Its because we do not control these labels, The white suits are all about making money and are not going to take care of it like a Berry Gordy would in his prime. Check out Scarface interview on the state of black music. Its amazing that 20 years ago I heard white kids call our music n!gger music (trust that they got worked for saying it :pachaha:) to know seeing white people doing the music.
 

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This sounds ignorant as fxck but my stance is, dark-skinned nxggaz need to take over R&B again.

I saw this coming in '05 when the likes of Chris Brown, Trey Songz started taking over.

Are you serious? Your ass is in London and you want to talk about light skin vs dark skin. That is your contribution to this thread :stopitslime:
 

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ariana grande cant read sheet music. :what:
shes not a classical type singer. shes frm disney. noone in that camp invested in music theory for her and smiley. so u cant bring up that argument.

when you said this, you totally missed my point. When you sound or sing the song just like the sheet music...that means you have skill & technical ability even if you haven't been trained. You still possess that skill. But to interpret it & put your own spin on the said (written sound) that comes from somewhere other than the producer or the music itself & project it on to the fans feelings as well is what I'm talking about. When I hear her, I hear great skill & vocal control but she does not have anything behind her, she's singing that song just like it was practiced and how she was taught how to perform it. There is no grit to it. It sounds great but it doesn't possess that 'other'.

Lets look at Basketball for comparison. When you see Mike do the reverse layup it looks and feels authentic, graceful even. its art basically have you with the :gladbron:



When you see Kobe do it...you can tell its not 'his' take on the reverse layup but MJ's...still effective and good but its not the same. :whoa: not saying Kobe is the Ariana of BB though, just doing this for comparison's sake, to help you understand.

 

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Are you serious? Your ass is in London and you want to talk about light skin vs dark skin. That is your contribution to this thread :stopitslime:

Jesus H. Christ, read between the lines...

I was using the analogy of Black IMAGERY being lessened in terms of the 1st tier R&B artists being linked to R&B moving away from its Black roots...

Where are today's equivalents of Jodeci, R. Kelly, Whitney Houston, Mary J. Blige, Brandy, Boyz II Men, etc?
 
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