America really needs a Biracial/Colored Distinction

[Raid]

why dont you start with your parent

Yoooooo

 

[Black Magisterialness]

England and South African brehs, how well has this Biracial/colored racial Category worked out for your respective communities?

1. If anything America needs the least amount of reasons of any 1st world nation to further stratify itself.
2. What purpose does this serve?
3. To do this further supports the (false) claim that race is something we need to highlight.
4. England and South Africa (and Brazil) have substantially different racial contexts than America. You can't apply their practices here.
5. nikkas is nikkas. I actually fervently disagree with many Coli brehs on this, but mixed people are nikkas to. The world (eventually) treats them as nikkas...we should treat them as we would any other nikka. Having a separate distinction doesn't help either cause.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

nikkas gon find all kinda ways to loophole out of being Black.

and why would you want them in the first place?

 

[ChatGPT-5]

If benefits here in Africa because it allows to differentiate who is truly black and who is not. You can't even come near a royal/wealthy line if you're tainted. No claims to certain lands. We have no confusion, no blurred lines. Either black or you're not. That's that.

 

[HopeKillCure]

Okay, let's leave the side talks out of it but a lot of you on this board post like kids with no understanding of anything and how the real world works. It's like most of you just get on your parents' computer and start creating alternative realities for yourselves - with dumb posts. And allow the Brum talks, I know real Johnnies and Burger boys (certified gun men) in Aston, West Brom, and Handsworth/Winson Green (went to Uni there) and they know what time it's when a South London man comes through. Stop it. Let's leave that out of it.

Anyway, what you're clamoring for on here is what's fundamentally wrong with Brazil and what they're trying to fix. You need to read more and understand that number plays huge role when it comes to politics and organized systems of government. It's always a numbers game.

As for fighting: revolutions have never been about the whole population because no matter the classification, there will always be dissenting voices. It's always about a few like minded folks. Even if you're to make the blackest people identify as black, there are still going to be people who won't agree with you. Someone like Jason Whitlock and a lot of the c00ns on Fox News are proper black. but how has that stopped them from being c00ns? However, some of the most loyal people in the black struggle in the US are people who're less than 70% black. Frederick Douglass had a white father. Dubois was very light skinned. Angela Davis is mixed. Malcolm X's mom damn near looks white. Etc. Can you name people who were braver than these folks?

You can't solve complex issues with simplistic solutions induced by emotions. Think deeper, breh. It's a numbers game.

I've already said that this isn't about excluding black People who have white people somewhere in their linage. It's about allowing people, who clearly are not black, the right to exit out of the black community.

People should not be forced into thenblwck community. If they say they are both black and white, then they are obviously not black.

Blackness, like I have mentioned before, is the measure of someone's commitment to an ingroup. Numbers for political strenght sounds good in theory but only if those numbers are organized and have a clear agenda. You can't organize with people who are not black (and are resentful at being forced to identify as black) for the benefit of black rights. They should be organizing for their own political agendas. You are arguing that people should be forced into blackness as some sort of curse by way of having 1 drop of black blood from some black ancestor.

That is stupid and not sustainable. Also pure black people's own blackness can be diminished as there is no control over who is accepted and the value of being black diminishes if you are forcing people to be black who don't want to be black.

 

[HopeKillCure]

This is absolutely true. It's been going on in Brazil for a long time. Paper bag and hair test in southern Africa .

A racial gradient system is a disastrous and counterproductive idea under a white supremacist system. I don't believe in the one drop rule, but it is what it is.

So the 1 drop a better situation to you?

 

[HopeKillCure]

Do white supremacy's work for them brehs
Concrete color classism is just what we need here in the US.

1 drop rule working out?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

There is only ONE 'race' of human beings.

There are several different 'ethnicities' and Nationalities.

There is no such thing as 'biracial' since the neanderthals became extinct about 40,000+ years ago.

This 'debate' is stupid and needs to die.

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[Blackgate]

america already tried it...my great great great grandfather was identified as a mulatto (the exact word used) on a new orleans census...with modern science and dna people still using old unscientific racial classifications...is mixed a race or ethnicity?...i dont think it is either one but so called mixed people can figure that out for themselves...

 

[BaggerofTea]

What's with this desperation to want everyone to be black.

Epitome of self hate

 

[Guile]

Brazilians have said on here thatnis not the way to go.

 

[Northern Son]

So the 1 drop a better situation to you?

It's stupid (anti science and logic), but it prevents overt mulatto privilege from becoming a thing (it destroyed Haiti). So many black people would claim they're whatever the equivalent of "coloured" would be (and since AA are already mostly mixed generationally they would be able to lay such claims in some cases) and dark skinned black people would be more marginalized than ever.

 

[KingSlime]

The only reason mulattoes in the past were ever even labeled "black" in the first place is because almost 100% of the time they were b*stard children conceived illegitimately and the white parent wanted nothing to do with it, so it took the racial status of its mother. In 2017, no person who conceives a mixed race child consentially is going to seriously pretend that their child isn't mixed hence why people are more open to be labeled biracial now

 

[hostsamurai]

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[Professor Emeritus]

Yes, because splitting up into more groups has ALWAYS worked out great, especially for minorities.

Let's get even more distinctions! Black Americans are too mixed to hold onto African tribal allegiances, so maybe we can create new ones state by state, so Alabama brothers won't chill with Mississippi brothers anymore.

That sounds like a great idea.

fukk man, in the other thread right now they trying to get that African and African-American beef going on again.

What do ya'all think the good of that shyt is?