American Cities Are The Same Compared to Europe

[UberEatsDriver]

Montreal is not America or Europe but that’s also a unique city. Way more unique than Toronto at that.

 

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Break it down for us murricans. What don't you like?

I loved Berlin. Felt like one big ass eclectic mix of every style of architecture known to man. The contrast between East Berlin and West Berlin was deep keeping the effects of the Wall in context. East had that monotonous USSR style feeling to it still. the gentrification in Kreuzberg on another level. One of the best public transit systems I'd ever experienced. Transit was also solid in Zurich, but a bit too rich and white for my blood

they are crowded, small, design is antiquated and not suitable for modern traffic. people live on top of each other like rats.

of course not all cities and some are charming for a visit for overall not very nice.

this is a typical amsterdam street

people are not meant to live like that.

it's cool for a visit but long-term it's not so nice.

Noise pollution threatens health of one in five Europeans | DW | 05.03.2020

cities are good for the economy but not good for people.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

they are crowded, small, design is antiquated and not suitable for modern traffic. people live on top of each other like rats.

of course not all cities and some are charming for a visit for overall not very nice.

this is a typical amsterdam street

people are not meant to live like that.

it's cool for a visit but long-term it's not so nice.

Noise pollution threatens health of one in five Europeans | DW | 05.03.2020

cities are good for the economy but not good for people.

I don’t understand this sentence. A family of 10 living in a house under 2,000 sq for are also living on top of eachother like rats.


Americans have this awkward belief that if you live in a building you are living in crowded conditions.


I’ve seen too many hood videos of trap houses in the south where mom, dad, uncle, auntie, grand parents and 6 kids were all sharing that space.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

they are crowded, small, design is antiquated and not suitable for modern traffic. people live on top of each other like rats.

of course not all cities and some are charming for a visit for overall not very nice.

this is a typical amsterdam street

people are not meant to live like that.

it's cool for a visit but long-term it's not so nice.

Noise pollution threatens health of one in five Europeans | DW | 05.03.2020

cities are good for the economy but not good for people.

This is clearly a subjective point.


There are many issues in the suburb that counter this point. For me personally no person should have to sit on a highway to go to work. No person should have to have a correlation of being fat to the no walk, no biking lifestyle of a suburb. No person should have to live in conditions where you have the same chain stores in mini outlets at every intersection.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

@BrothaZay technically made a thread somewhat similar to this about the south several months back.


But yes I didn’t read it yet but many American cities don’t have much uniqueness to it. But I also disagree that only 4 cities in America are unique. There’s much more than that because there are much more then 4 super old cities

There are more that are unique than not.
SF, Vegas, hell even Midwest cities like old St Louis, Milwaukee and others have a old German feel to them. Even a boring ass city like San Antonio has some unique features to it and a distinct history and culture. Charlotte is mostly built around interstates but you still have beautiful ass Lake Norman.

basically all of the old cities on the eastern seaboard are walkable in the inner city. Baltimore, dc Philly Newark, etc.

the city where I’m from, Mobile Al has been around since 1702 and has been under the rule of six different countries.

 

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This is clearly a subjective point.


There are many issues in the suburb that counter this point. For me personally no person should have to sit on a highway to go to work. No person should have to have a correlation of being fat to the no walk, no biking lifestyle of a suburb. No person should have to live in conditions where you have the same chain stores in mini outlets at every intersection.

what's "subjective" about this? Noise pollution threatens health of one in five Europeans | DW | 05.03.2020 (random link. there are hundreds of studies showing similar).

EE has more space and more dilapidation. UK all crowded in the south east.

Why Are American Homes So Big?

 

[UberEatsDriver]

what's "subjective" about this? Noise pollution threatens health of one in five Europeans | DW | 05.03.2020

Meanwhile New York City has one of the longest life expectancy in the country of America.

New Yorkers have third-longest life expectancy in the US: CDC


No place is perfect. Every place has their issues. I work in the suburbs now and I feel my quality of life going down being stuck on a highway to get home each day.


It’s also a fact that sprawled living correlated to obesity which correlates to early death

 

[UberEatsDriver]

There are more that are unique than not.
SF, Vegas, hell even Midwest cities like old St Louis, Milwaukee and others have a old German feel to them. Even a boring ass city like San Antonio has some unique features to it and a distinct history and culture. Charlotte is mostly built around interstates but you still have beautiful ass Lake Norman.

basically all of the old cities on the eastern seaboard are walkable in the inner city. Baltimore, dc Philly Newark, etc.

the city where I’m from, Mobile Al has been around since 1702 and has been under the rule of six different countries.

Mobile Alabama is def unique. Actually the whole gulf is. You make a valid point. The boredom of America cities started in the 50s when suburbs were invented.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

Mobile Alabama is def unique. Actually the whole gulf is. You make a valid point. The boredom of America cities started in the 50s when suburbs were invented.

If you want to look at the progression of suburbs in America, you can look at the cities of Boston, Philly, and Atlanta. Boston and Phillys suburbs (especially along the Main Line) are all mostly self functioning towns. I would say Boston’s suburbs and towns are larger population wise than Boston itself by far. Roxbury and Dorchester were originally independent towns.

Atlanta is unique because it absorbed its suburbs. The area around Grant Park and present day Abernathy blvd (west end) were originally streetcar suburbs. South Fulton county and the north part (buckhead, Alpharetta) were originally their own counties, (Campbell and Milton counties, respectively) which is why Fulton county has such a unique shape.

In fact, I think our metro centers are very distinct from Europe. Think about it, does Europe have a city that has a relationship like DC with Prince Georges County? Or like DC with VA, MD, and the federal govt, while being an independent entity with its own governance too?


Also I think we downplay the feats and beauty American architecture a little too much. The skyscraper has been copied by all of these old world cities and countries, we don’t have castles and cathedrals like that but we weren’t built on that

 

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Meanwhile New York City has one of the longest life expectancy in the country of America.

New Yorkers have third-longest life expectancy in the US: CDC

Maybe I haven't made myself clear

US > Europe when it comes to cities and non-city living and logistics

Have you ever ben to Europe? Lived in Europe? Driven in Europe?

No place is perfect. Every place has their issues. I work in the suburbs now and I feel my quality of life going down being stuck on a highway to get home each day.

Maybe I haven't made myself clear

US > Europe when it comes to cities and non-city living and logistics

Who said any place was perfect?

It’s also a fact that sprawled living correlated to obesity which correlates to early death

in Europe?
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meanwhile you ignored my "what's subjective" question ..

 

[UberEatsDriver]

If you want to look at the progression of suburbs in America, you can look at the cities of Boston, Philly, and Atlanta. Boston and Phillys suburbs (especially along the Main Line) are all mostly self functioning towns. I would say Boston’s suburbs and towns are larger population wise than Boston itself by far. Roxbury and Dorchester were originally independent towns.

Atlanta is unique because it absorbed its suburbs. The area around Grant Park and present day Abernathy blvd (west end) were originally streetcar suburbs. South Fulton county and the north part (buckhead, Alpharetta) were originally their own counties, (Campbell and Milton counties, respectively) which is why Fulton county has such a unique shape.

In fact, I think our metro centers are very distinct from Europe. Think about it, does Europe have a city that has a relationship like DC with Prince Georges County? Or like DC with VA, MD, and the federal govt, while being an independent entity with its own governance too?


Also I think we downplay the feats and beauty American architecture a little too much. The skyscraper has been copied by all of these old world cities and countries, we don’t have castles and cathedrals like that but we weren’t built on that

Valid points. There’s a town in Long Island called Hempstead which I believe has more people than The city of Atlanta

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Maybe I haven't made myself clear

US > Europe when it comes to cities and non-city living and logistics

Have you ever ben to Europe? Lived in Europe? Driven in Europe?



Maybe I haven't made myself clear

US > Europe when it comes to cities and non-city living and logistics

Who said any place was perfect?



in Europe?
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meanwhile you ignored my "what's subjective" question ..

You don’t think a city like Boston and Philly are replicas of Europe tho? In Philly there are streets so narrow that you get anxiety from parrallel parking

 

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You don’t think a city like Boston and Philly are replicas of Europe tho? In Philly there are streets so narrow that you get anxiety from parrallel parking

average out US cities vs average out European cities.

overall US cities are better.

more space. better (more modern) design.

that "history" and "colosseum" stuff is nice to look at and nice for the tourists but it is impractical to live in.

 

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You don’t think a city like Boston and Philly are replicas of Europe tho? In Philly there are streets so narrow that you get anxiety from parrallel parking

do me and yourself a favour and watch this:



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[GreenGhxst]

I'm not gonna act like I'm an expert of European metropolitan architecture but



this sounds bs lol. At least I hope he's not including Hausmann's Paris in his analysis.

Europe is much much older than America

Europe was thriving before the idea of America came to mind

You have to think about the Empires that existed, the time periods... the middle ages, the roman empire, the greeks

Europeans came to America, it makes a ton of sense