Andrew Luck vs. RG3: A Year Later, Who You Got?
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no i think working on his mechanics is a more pressing matter right now.If killa Cam would learn to go thru his progressions better and maybe get some decent recievers he would be the automatic Goat tho
But for now Luck is the best
Both of them are going to be elite as long as they stay healthy but I gotta go with RG3 if I was choosing. He's just as accurate as Luck if not more so and he is a major running threat as well though Luck is decent in that area too. You cant go wrong with either one but I think Griffin has the higher ceiling than Andrew though not by much.
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
at people still using the "he was asked to do more" excuse for Luck. If he is better than RGIII, as you all are asserting, then that should still be apparent even while being asked to do more. Being asked to do more, in and of itself, doesn't make you better. You have to actually perform at a comparable or superior level while being asked to do more for that to be brought into play. Luck didn't do that. I am pretty sure RGIII could have managed 3 more TDs, 1100 more yds, and 13% lower completion % if asked to throw 200+ more times. RGIII had a higher TD% and lower INT % and avg. more Y/A. That's just passing. RGIII, even coming off an injury, is clearly the better runner. RGIII had a better running game, that he played a pretty big part in BTW. Morris >>> any of Luck's RBs. However, Wayne >>> any of RGIIIs receivers. So let's not act like he had no help.
I guess you didn't watch the playoff game against the Skins last year huh?
Luck DID do more though. 4th quarter comebacks, calls at the line, pre snap adjustments, going through his progressions. RG3 ran a simplified, zone read offense that relied heavily on play action passes. It's an easy offense to run and he's not asked to throw alot either...he still has to prove he can drop back, read a defense and make plays. He's not at that level yet. Luck is & is a better QB for making alot of those mistakes in his rookie yr.
BTW, all y'all shyttin on Russ Wilson are crazy. Not only did he comeback vs WAS he came back vs us and almost won the divisional game too. Russ is a beast out there
Luck. I'd even take Russell Wilson over RGIII.
Let me see that whoopi goldberg lookin nikka make it through a 16 game season then we'll talk.
Let me see that whoopi goldberg lookin nikka make it through a 16 game season then we'll talk.
the bossman
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I guess you didn't watch the playoff game against the Skins last year huh?
All respect to the beast Russell Dangerfield but let's keep it real brehs. RG3 was demolishing the almighty Seattle defense on one leg 14-0. Russ couldn't do anything until RG3 finally collapsed and killed the skins momentum.
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Piff Perkins
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Luck. I love RG3 but I don't see him surviving Shannahan's "hard on nikkas" approach to the game. Hard to see RG3 being a starter in 4 years IMO. Dude has the talent but his legs are gonna be destroyed this year.
Luck, he can read a defense. Also he's about to make Fleener a Pro Bowler, that alone gets my vote, I don't see RG3 turning nobodies into overnight celebrities.
You can say that RG3's injury made it easier on the defense, but Russell still did his thing. Just took him a while to settle down.
They were down 14 and they came back to win, period. They damn near came back from down 20 a week later and Russ showed the fukk out. The poster that I was responding to was completely off base.
Once again, being asked to do more, doesn't automatically make you better. Getting a C in and AP class doesn't make you smarter than a kid who got an A+ in a normal class. You can say what you will about RGIIIs offense but he put up special numbers in that offense. If it was so easy why doesn't every team just do it, including the Colts. You don't get extra points for degree of difficulty. It's about making plays and minimizing mistakes, period. 4th qtr comebacks are the most overrated thing ever. Nobody goes into a game looking to have to comeback. Every team comes out looking to get up early and play from ahead. The Colts didn't do that, in great part because of Luck's turnovers. You don't get extra points for fukking up early, either.
Snitchin Splatter
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Being asked to do more, means your team has the confidence in you to do so. You don't get extra points for degrees of difficulty, but you do get more yards, wins, and touchdowns like Luck did
Saying 4th quarter comeback's don't mean anything just isn't true. You act like Luck is the reason the Colts had to come back so much, and not their terrible D, o-line, and special teams. The exact same team minus Luck went 2-14. He carried them on his back all season because he had no choice. There was no gimmick offense to be ran, no 1000 yard rusher or Superbowl WInning coach. The Colts made that turn around on the strength of Andrew. And his league-leading and Rookie All-Time record 4th quarter comebacks was one of if not the most impressive stat to be broken by any of the Rookie QB's last year
Kenny West
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Get out of here with that gimmick offense garbage. A gimmick offense is the Wildcat formation. The Pistol formation is something that is going to stick around for a long time. The Broncos are starting to use the Pistol too. I bet that it won't be a "gimmick" any longer.
The Steelers used it as well for Roethlisberger when he was playing injured.
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You mean Dwayne Allen. Fleener is a p*ssy.
you mean the division with the defending SB champs that year?
Being the defending SB champs means 0 in the NFL. Giants didnt even make the playoffs. Not like teams out here repeating constantly.
Like, are people REALLY afraid of the Ravens this year because they won last year? Baltimore isn't doing shyt this season.
You can't have it both ways though. You can't say the INTs and comp% are a result of being asked to do more and then pump up his yds and TDs which are a result of a same. RGIIIs TD/INT ratio and comp % shyt all over Luck's. Luck barely edged him out in TDs and RGIII has the superior yds per att. You can't dwell on 3tds and 1100yds on 200+ more attempts and then act like the TD/INT ratio and comp % are no big deal and just a function of the offense.
Like I said it is silly to judge QBs by wins. It's nothing than a reach used to pump up a guy who's individual stats don't cut it. You taking Shuab and Ryan or even mid 30's Manning and Brady over Rodgers?
And it wasn't the exact same team. They got a new coach and that coach was sick and thusly provided inspiration. Not to mention the 2-14 team was not prepared to not have Peyton. AND this if football. We see teams go from worst to first all the time so I can't put all of that on Luck. Who was the previous holder of the Rookie record for 4th quarter comebacks...Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Marino, Montana? Serious question. Because if it is so impressive and such a representative metric an ATG should have been the previous record holder. Tebow had a bunch of 4th qtr comebacks a couple years ago, you taking him over RGIII too? If you get the job done in qtrs 1-3 you chances to make comebacks are severely diminished. So when you talk about comebacks you are eliminating and basically punishing guys who didn't fukk up early in games and didn't have need to atone for it in the 4th.
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