Angry Father [edited] Destroys Common Core by Writing This on His Son’s Test

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It's absolutely true, and I'm speaking based on quite a bit of experience. Explain yourself with substance.
you made the statement breh. You explain how a Bachelors of Science degree in electronic engineering doesn't require study in mathematics.
 

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I've come across bullshyt like this a few times with my kids, and I teach them the old skool way
They still learn this new age bullshyt, but all my kids are in advanced everything classes.
Besides the natural abilites they inherited, I make sure they do there homework right after they have a snack when they get home
These new ways from what I've seen have not benefitted them. Good parenting did that

If a school is the only way your child is going to learn, then your child will ultimately be a dumbass
Its on you parents to lead your seeds in the right direction. Don't let TV or "popular opinions" raise your children
Hollaback...
 

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:dwillhuh: Who's talking about those properties? We're dealing with convoluted methods of doing simple arithmetic, not attributes that actually come in handy later :camby: Poor example



Same thing. They all look convoluted at first.
 

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I'm genuinely surprised at the uproar this is causing. All the problem is asking is that you subtract the hundreds, then the tens, then the ones. It's asking you apply this reasoning to a simple problem so you can practice the process. Once you understand the process, then you can subtract much more complex numbers, quickly, in your head, without the use of scrap paper.

The fact that people are turning this into such an issue just shows how, when politics get involved, Americans turn into zombie who cant think for themselves.

How could anyone with higher than a 9th grade education not understand the problem in the OP? :wtf:

Even worse, dudes that cant understand it are adamant that it's not their fault...its the evil government :wtf:

America in a nutshell :truth:
 
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Same thing. They all look convoluted at first.

Addition and multiplication properties cant be simplifed tho, they're just facts that they give you and you can actually do fine without them tbh.

I'm more concerned about them making things like lattice multiplication and long roundabout ways of adding and subtracting the basis of completing problems and not just some extra credit worksheet the substitute gives them to pass the time. The regular ways of adding and subtraction are just fine because they are short, compact, and easy to quickly review over and over.



How could anyone with higher than a 9th grade education not understand the problem in the OP? :wtf:

Ok, I'll give you this one, because they use the whole "stumping the Ph.D" narrative" just used as an exaggeration to plead their case :aicmon:. I tutor these kids, and no matter how weird the assignment is, we find a way to muscle through them and come up with a completed paper.

As for the rest of your argument, damn right this should cause an uproar :birdman:! Quite a few of these kids still can't do mental math for their grade level, and you think some new scheme that piles on more steps and takes up more space is gonna help?
What students need is repetition, repetition, repetition, where you enforce the standard top-to-bottom way of arithmetic, while highlighting patterns, enforcing observation of patterns, and most importantly, organizing the numbers in a neat, lined up matter so that they can see the operations being done and visualize them later.
 

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Addition and multiplication properties cant be simplifed tho, they're just facts that they give you and you can actually do fine without them tbh.

I'm more concerned about them making things like lattice multiplication and long roundabout ways of adding and subtracting the basis of completing problems and not just some extra credit worksheet the substitute gives them to pass the time. The regular ways of adding and subtraction are just fine because they are short, compact, and easy to quickly review over and over.





Ok, I'll give you this one, because they use the whole "stumping the Ph.D" narrative" just used as an exaggeration to plead their case :aicmon:. I tutor these kids, and no matter how weird the assignment is, we find a way to muscle through them and come up with a completed paper.

As for the rest of your argument, damn right this should cause an uproar :birdman:! Quite a few of these kids still can't do mental math for their grade level, and you think some new scheme that piles on more steps and takes up more space is gonna help?
What students need is repetition, repetition, repetition, where you enforce the standard top-to-bottom way of arithmetic, while highlighting patterns, enforcing observation of patterns, and most importantly, organizing the numbers in a neat, lined up matter so that they can see the operations being done and visualize them later.
This dude gets it. This is how math is supposed to be taught. Period.
 

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I have no faith in these school systems anymore. If a student knows a easier way to get the answer then why cant they use that method? Its ridiculous.
 

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our school follows common core

traditional subtraction is taught, but number lines may be used for differentiation to help visual students

number lines are great for teaching adding and subtracting integers and absolute value

really we use common core as a guideline for what students should know by the end of each grade

teaching how the students gain that knowledge is up to the teacher's discretion
 

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I have no faith in these school systems anymore. If a student knows a easier way to get the answer then why cant they use that method? Its ridiculous.

they can. a teacher is supposed to teach students that there are multiple ways to skin a cat, and use whichever way works best for you
 

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Addition and multiplication properties cant be simplifed tho, they're just facts that they give you and you can actually do fine without them tbh.

I don't agree.

How were you taught to do addition and subtraction?


Who knows, my preschool memory is hazy.
I also don't remember learning to read.
I don't understand the point of this question.
 

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Ok, I'll give you this one, because they use the whole "stumping the Ph.D" narrative" just used as an exaggeration to plead their case :aicmon:. I tutor these kids, and no matter how weird the assignment is, we find a way to muscle through them and come up with a completed paper.

As for the rest of your argument, damn right this should cause an uproar :birdman:! Quite a few of these kids still can't do mental math for their grade level, and you think some new scheme that piles on more steps and takes up more space is gonna help?
What students need is repetition, repetition, repetition, where you enforce the standard top-to-bottom way of arithmetic, while highlighting patterns, enforcing observation of patterns, and most importantly, organizing the numbers in a neat, lined up matter so that they can see the operations being done and visualize them later.
Agreed, but the problem isnt with the standards, it's with their implementation.
 
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