AOC says govt should rein news media : "you can't just spew disinformation '

[CrimsonTider]

I agree with Healthcare. But as far as college goes, prices should be more reasonable. But anything that’s free, automatically looses its value.

how does free education lose its value

 

[Mowgli]

so we aren't going to trust corporations but the government to check facts

What's the worst that could happen

 

[OG Talk]

are you equating the availability of education with the ability of individuals to complete that education?

That’s not true?

 

[duncanthetall]

It’s a very slippery slope, and I’m not smart enough to know or come up with the solution. But it’s a problem that needs an answer. I’ve never lived in a world where cable news couldn’t just spin as much as their heart desires. Don’t know what it’d look like.

 

[invincible1914]

It sounds like your objection could just be summarized as, "She should stop advocating so much for things she believes in."

Do you have an issue with her policies or just the fact that she advocates for her policies? Do you think Biden/Clinton-type centrism has been good to Black folk?

She just talks too much about every single thing. I think I got turned off when after Cuomo and De Blasio cut 1 billion off the NYPD budget, she came through talking bout “Defund the police means defund the police”. I was like what do you want? So my opinion of her changed from that point. Also, this progressive vs centrist argument is stupid. Neither one has done much for black folks.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

It’s a very slippery slope, and I’m not smart enough to know or come up with the solution. But it’s a problem that needs an answer. I’ve never lived in a world where cable news couldn’t just spin as much as their heart desires. Don’t know what it’d look like.

 

[OG Talk]

how does free education lose its value

The knowledge doesn’t lose its value. The degree does. Either way it’s not a hill I’m eager to die on. I just think free healthcare is a bigger priority and more beneficial to society.

 

[Chrome2279]

Only a matter of time before they get their hands on the internet too.. then it’s game over

 

[TallMan_J]

I don’t really agree with this. Sets a bad precedent. Just set a warning before the nonsensical broadcasts like “Watch at your own discretion. What you’re about to view may or may not be true.”. Just like they do with Trump’s dumb ass election fraud Tweets.


If you’re stupid enough to believe any of the outlandish bullshyt that “the media” broadcasts, then that’s on you.


That includes many of the agendas that they’re trying to push on society.

 

[BlackJesus]

Don't know why you jumped to this conclusion, but both right and left have suggested that Section 230 needs a repeal or at least a rewrite, it's done much more harm than good. I have no clue why you think that social media companies are "left liberal" leaning at all, they appear quite firmly corporate centrist. Exposes who you've been listening to.

Section 230 repeal was literally the only thing standing between $2000 stimulus checks. What did the Democrats say?

Nope.

And they are not “corporate centrist” whatever that means. Shutting down 70,000 accounts connected to conservative users is not “corporate centrist”

 

[BobbyWojak]

The knowledge doesn’t lose its value. The degree does. Either way it’s not a hill I’m eager to die on. I just think free healthcare is a bigger priority and more beneficial to society.

Healthcare is much less attainable though, even Biden supports student loan forgiveness to an extent.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

not to mention healthcare ain't gonna be just accepted or embrace whole heartedly.

Healthcare is much less attainable though, even Biden supports student loan forgiveness to an extent.

 

[tuckgod]

Is she rocking a Cuban mask chain?




Quarantine stuntin

 

[Professor Emeritus]

She just talks too much about every single thing. I think I got turned off when after Cuomo and De Blasio cut 1 billion off the NYPD budget, she came through talking bout “Defund the police means defund the police”. I was like what do you want?

So I was right right, you're upset that she advocates for her priorities too much.

This is wild - it's a thread where the main complaint is that the media is falsely spinning everything, and you're complaining that she takes control of her own narrative and doesn't just let the media do anything they want.

The issue you're complaining about is a perfect example. NYPD says, "We cut a billion, what more do you want?" And you want AOC to shut up and just swallow the NYPD narrative. Let's see what she actually said:

Though the plan proposed by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) cuts one-sixth of the New York Police Department (NYPD) budget, activists note that much of it would be transferred to other city departments, including the Department of Education, where it could pay for police in schools. Activists have advocated for removing officers from schools altogether.

“Defunding police means defunding police,” the congresswoman said in a statement. “It does not mean budget tricks or funny math. It does not mean moving school police officers from the NYPD budget to the Department of Education’s budget so the exact same police remain in schools.”

Anthonine Pierre, a spokesperson for Communities United for Police Reform, said in a local TV interview that de Blasio is "doing funny math and playing the PR games he always plays" in the proposal.

"It seems like the mayor is trying to use the talking points of defunding the police without actually meeting the demands," Pierre said.

Ocasio-Cortez said that cutting the police budget is not effective if it does not result in the reduced presence of law enforcement.

“It does not mean counting overtime cuts as cuts, even as NYPD ignores every attempt by City Council to curb overtime spending and overspends on overtime anyways,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “If these reports are accurate, then these proposed ‘cuts’ to the NYPD budget are a disingenuous illusion. This is not a victory. The fight to defund policing continues.”

So they were just going to pay the same police officers out of other departments and claim reduced overtime spending that they wouldn't actually follow through on, weren't going to reduce police presence, and you ate that shyt and said, "Great job NYPD!"

You're upset that AOC is siding with the Black-led police reform groups and broadcasting their message instead of just bowing down before the NYPD.

Also, this progressive vs centrist argument is stupid. Neither one has done much for black folks.

Progressives have done far more for Black folk than any other non-Black folk have. Teach yourself some history. Look at the post-Civil War radicals that forced through the 13th-15th amendments and protected former slaves during Reconstruction or look at the RFK campaign and what his position in the Black community was. MLK Jr. attacked moderate whites and not progressive whites for a reason - because 1/3 of the people participating in the CRM were white, and damn near all of them were progressive. Virtually every non-Black person who supports reparations is progressive.

Can you name a single economic issue where you think the progressive position is inferior for Black folk to the centrist position?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Section 230 repeal was literally the only thing standing between $2000 stimulus checks. What did the Democrats say?

Nope.

I mean, at least wipe it off your chin before speaking, leaving the stuff dripping there is gross and unseemly.

McConnell made an intentional poison pill bill that would have fully repealed Section 230 with no legal framework to replace it. Same stupid shyt they do with Obamacare and other laws, they're just throwing poison pills out there with no desire to actually fix the issue. He knew the bill wouldn't go forward and had no intention for it to, he didn't even put it up for a vote in the Senate. And you ate that shyt.

Democrats have been complaining about Section 230 at least as long as Republicans have. But you have to create a framework to replace it, otherwise shyt would be tied up in courts forever trying to interpret how the internet even worked without it.

Joe Biden wants to revoke Section 230

Democrats and Republicans agree that Section 230 is flawed

Democrats prefer 'scalpel' over 'jackhammer' to reform key U.S. internet law

And they are not “corporate centrist” whatever that means. Shutting down 70,000 accounts connected to conservative users is not “corporate centrist”

If you think that the billionaires who run Big Tech are far-left liberals you're a fukking idiot. You seriously believe Mark Zuckerburg of all people is conscious and leftist? They care about their money and business more than any other political position, therefore they support pro-corporate positions like all good centrists.

"Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook divided their dollars precisely between the two major political parties, while Google's PAC directed 56% of its money to Republicans and 44% to Democrats."

Tech workers lean left, but their companies' PACs play both sides

Tech Companies Aren't Just Donating to Democrats: A Look at Silicon Valley's Contributions to Republican Campaigns


They shut down radical far-right accounts advocating violence and racism because insurrection is bad for business, not because they're liberals.

Who do you get your news on this shyt from?