Are 50 Point Games Dying Off?
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I can see Melo doing it more than once for the simple fact he may need to considering he's the best of a bad situation. Guys like Bron Kd Harden and George all have team mates that could outscore them any given night. So expecting them to drop 50 often is crazy.Very simple. The league is currently lacking in players with the ability or the need to do so.
Lebron doesn't want to. Kobe's old and coming off injury. KD wants to be more like Lebron. Sabo has KD on his team. George's team doesn't really need it from him. There is no real reason why Melo shouldn't be dropping 50 every so often. Steph did it last year and I could see he or Klay getting hot and doing so again. Harden can do it.
The fall off of big men has something to do with it too. You look throughout history and generally the biggest, most efficient scorers were big guys. What big man in today's game is capable of dropping 50?
As far as winning and losing goes, sure teams may win individual games where a guy goes off for 50 but generally speaking if you team requires that kind of effort from you consistently they probably aren't that good. Only time we've ever seen a team succeed with one guy gunning is the 01 6ers and that proved to be a flash in the pan. For the most part teams like that barely make it and are first round fodder (see 05, 06 Lakers, Bulls early in Mike's career, early 2000 Magic).
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at people dismissing certain stats while praising another stat.
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
You're right, but Carmelo was never that great of a scorer like the fans and media make him out to be.
That's the thing. The one star per team era is over. Great players aren't being forced to carry teams all by themselves.
Because less fouls are called now, defenses are better, the game is a lot more physically intensive now (lack of ISO-ball while other players watch and the emphasis on transition defense and offense), and iso-ball simply isn't a viable winning formula. It leads to a couple of nice performances but it isn't winning basketball. That ish doesn't fly in the playoffs.
Shooting that much makes it easier to defend you, your other players get out of sync, and it's a chore on your body.
How the fukk is being efficient w bad thing? Scoring the most amount of points on the least amount of shots means less wasted possessions, other teammates stay on sync, and it makes the team harder to defend against.
I bet most of you nikkas hating on efficiency are Kobe stans.
Rudy gay is da best SF in da lee, guys! He takes da most shots and that's what you want from your players.
Shooting that much makes it easier to defend you, your other players get out of sync, and it's a chore on your body.
How the fukk is being efficient w bad thing? Scoring the most amount of points on the least amount of shots means less wasted possessions, other teammates stay on sync, and it makes the team harder to defend against.
I bet most of you nikkas hating on efficiency are Kobe stans.
Rudy gay is da best SF in da lee, guys! He takes da most shots and that's what you want from your players.
I was thinking it would be this dude. I was at the Kings game Sunday and everyone in the building thought he was going to go off after the 1st quarter.
Bilz
Superstar
So Kobe lost his legs 5 years ago?
Rudy Gay is a perfect example of a talented player who struggles because he tries to hero ball in a league where hero ball simply isn't conducive to a winning team. Ellis is too. It's no shocker that their play has drastically improved when they play within an offense instead of trying to be the offense.
This isn't 2K. Players like AI, Arenas, and so forth would struggle to score like they used with how much harder it is to consistently penetrate defenses due to stronger rotations, strong-side loading, etc.
rip isolation/hero ball.
hello team ball/everybody eat ball
how is this a good thing in terms of entertainment value? I can understand from a scrub perspective like a Shane Battier than you'd prefer this league as it is now with its emphasis on penetration and kick out 3s instead of isolation ball, however, as a fan this sucks. The thing that made the NBA special and better than college ball was the fact that it was dominated by superstars. Isolation superstars. Now the game is all about pick and roll penetration and 3 point shooting.
Gimme early 00s basketball over the crap we're seeing now anyday. The game is really boring now.
Kobe had 4 straight 50 point plus games including back to back 60 point games. Lakers went 4-0 in that stretch.
and he shot over 50% from 2 and 3....for the stat nerds
that game was alot more fun/impressive to watch than LeBron's 50 point near triple double....so many incredible and difficult shots
after the game the NYC crowd gave Kobe a standing ovation.....they didn't do that for LeBron
cause we watch basketball for entertainment nikka
ya'll out here acting like we're supposed to be coaches caring about wasted possessions and having all players in synch
I just wanna get the best show possible. And Kobe circa 05-07 was the best show in the NBA cause he was dropping 40-50 points every other night. That is what the league lacks.
I don't wanna see the NBA become college ball where its all about the system and getting all the players touches. I like superstar isolation ball. Its better and more entertaining.
I've read everything you've said...and you're an idiot
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
you have these fakkit impressionable young guys trying to impress white stat nerds and get called efficient
no wonder why the game is so boring.
Man, i get bored sometimes watching the damn highlights.
Not many true superstars in the NBA nowadays as there were in the early 2000's
And the ones that are wanna join up and form superteams so they don't have to
Agree.
Very simple. The league is currently lacking in players with the ability or the need to do so.
Lebron doesn't want to. Kobe's old and coming off injury. KD wants to be more like Lebron. Sabo has KD on his team. George's team doesn't really need it from him. There is no real reason why Melo shouldn't be dropping 50 every so often. Steph did it last year and I could see he or Klay getting hot and doing so again. Harden can do it.
The fall off of big men has something to do with it too. You look throughout history and generally the biggest, most efficient scorers were big guys. What big man in today's game is capable of dropping 50?
As far as winning and losing goes, sure teams may win individual games where a guy goes off for 50 but generally speaking if you team requires that kind of effort from you consistently they probably aren't that good. Only time we've ever seen a team succeed with one guy gunning is the 01 6ers and that proved to be a flash in the pan. For the most part teams like that barely make it and are first round fodder (see 05, 06 Lakers, Bulls early in Mike's career, early 2000 Magic).
Also
shyt most hardly get to 30pt.
What? they call fouls for looking sideways now.