The Iso ball years had some of the worst basketball in the modern era, sorry but I prefer ball movement today and watching the game now as opposed to Jerry Stackhouse nearly score 60 (57pts).
Are 50 Point Games Dying Off?
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Assists and triple doubles are cooler than 50 point games now.
I like to see someone go ham every now and then but if you're scoring 40-50+ consistantly you ain't a team player.
I remember when Kobe had that streak of 50+ a few years back, he would have a 4 on 1 and would still force it just to get fouled. Team ball >
I like to see someone go ham every now and then but if you're scoring 40-50+ consistantly you ain't a team player.
I remember when Kobe had that streak of 50+ a few years back, he would have a 4 on 1 and would still force it just to get fouled. Team ball >
In the last 10 years there has been one season where someone has attempted more than 900 freethrows on a season, prior to that it had been done 8 times in 19 years.
There were more fouls called back in the day than today.
I'm entertained by good basketball, breh. I can appreciate high scoring performances, I can appreciate the chess battles that coaches engage with offensive sets, and I can appreciate everything in between.
Seeing players like CP3 and Lebron dismantle defenses with a mixture of vision, passing, and scoring are just as entertaining as seeing Curry get burning hot from the floor and knock down everything.
Seeing Westbrook viciously attack and create looks for his teammates by being the lightning rod can entertain me just as much as Tony Parker run a smooth motion offense and utilize his teammates to their max potential.
You appreciate style, I can appreciate style and substance. I love watching Monta Ellis play but I would never want him to be my franchise player or say he's better player than Kevin Love or something.
Lebron entertains me because I see and understand all the little things he's doing that make him so dangerous. I see why coaches and analysts are so impressed by Lebron even if the dude guarding him doesn't even notice what happened because Lebron was attacking a flaw in the defensive system, not necessarily the person guarding him.
You don't really respect basketball, breh.
It's all perception. Ofcourse u "see" more fouls today, you're probably watching damn near 150 games in a season vs a couple dozen if lucky back in the day.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
That stat just means that individual players are shooting less fts (probably because they're less agressive, hardly anyone plays in the post and most games are jump-shooting contests), it doesn't say anything about overrall fouls called.
you must be a cacyou fakkits wanna turn the NBA into college ball so more cacs can make it
Might seem that way but its a lot lower than it used to be, breh. FT have been going down like crazy since 08. Go look up an article titled "Where have the gunners gone" and be amazed.
you can't really be saying that you prefer basketball today (as in this present season) over 2001-02 season for example? This season just might be the worst season in modern NBA history. Look at how many terrible teams there are. The fukking east has 2 teams over .500. There are barely any superstars left. I can't think of a lower period in the post-Magic/Bird NBA than today.
you seen to have forgetten how incredible the league was back in the early 00s during the height of isolation basketball
isolation basketball is what made the NBA what it is today.....its what made Michael Jordan the most popular athlete in history......its what made the pro game different from the college game......its what brought out the best in athleticism
the game we have today is much less entertaining and the drop off in attendance and TV viewership is clear evidence that fans prefer isolation basketball to the garbage we see today
you fakkits wanna turn the NBA into college ball so more cacs can make it
Only white people appreciate good basketball? You sound stupid as fukk.
The best floor generals in the game are all black and one of the best floor generals we've seen is an athletic anomaly of a black guy.
You sound fukkin retarded. You probably think Jamal Crawford is more entertaining than Magic Johnson, huh?
Fukk outta here, fakkit.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
I'm gonna quote myself
I think I get what you're saying. OVERRAL, there are less fouls called today. That makes perfect sense actually: as I said, most games are jump-shooting contests, and hardly anyone plays in the post now. Plus most defenses don't really contest. BUT what i meant is that we have WAAAAY more ticky-tack fouls for the few times someone actually goes to the rim than before.
So we might be talking about two different things. I don't mind seeing a lot of fouls because players are going to the basket and the defense is actually trying to contest, I grew up watching the Knicks/Heat/Bulls/Pacers battles. It comes with the territory: agressive basketball means a lot of fouls. But I DO mind when some guy drives, the defender looks like he's trying to get out the way and a "foul" is called because the offensive player threw his arms up. The way the game is played today it's amazing some guys end up with 4 fouls.
Teams are playing so awful because it's one of the best drafts of the decade and no team in the East thinks they're gonna beat the Heat or Pacers in 7. Its more a problem with the lottery rather than the talent. The East pretty much realizes this is Lebron's league and they're planning for the future after the Big 3 breakup.
The Heat are coasting and the Pacers are becoming defensive juggernauts.
If you've actually watched the games, there's actually plenty of young talent going around.
First of all, you are assuming a priori that what you described is "good basketball." All I said is the shyt you said sounds like something a cac would say that hates the black brand of basketball. Our brand of basketball is about playing an entertaining and athletic style of ball that highlights the superior one on one skills of our superstars rather than this mumbo jumbo you said of watching coaches engage in offensive sets and watching "floor generals." shyt sounds like crap you'd hear from Adolph Rupp circa 1960.
I don't think its "bad basketball" to appreciate isolation basketball that highlights the superior skills of the dominant athletes. Its just different than what you think is good basketball. Rather than leaving it at a difference in preference, you are the one interjecting that to appreciate watching players play one on one over what we have today is not appreciating good basketball.
I never said one type of play was objectively better than the other. All I said is that iso ball is more EXCITING. And since its more exciting, its the brand of basketball I appreciate.
@Swagnificent
It's ironic that you are lamenting about excitement and citing the early 2000's aka a low period in the league as an example of how the league should be. Either you don't remember that era or were young. Teams were scoring 80 or 90 on the regular. I remember the Pistons held I believe it was 5 straight opponents as in entire teams under 70 pts
. Scoring 100 was a big deal. You had 3 or 4 teams in the whole league giving you 100 every night. Compared to half the league doing it now. Whole teams are scoring now, not just one guy. Everybody is displaying their dominance and athleticism, not just one guy. What makes one guy doing it more exciting then everybody on the court doing it? 
That's like saying I prefer songs where only one guy has a nice verse or I prefer movies where only one of the actors performs well.
Is watching a whole teams score 90 while shooting brick after brick really more exciting than watching teams score 110 while things operate smoothly and more efficiently? Efficiency=more made shots and less misses. Unless you enjoy wathcing nikkas miss shots I'm not sure what the problem is.
It's ironic that you are lamenting about excitement and citing the early 2000's aka a low period in the league as an example of how the league should be. Either you don't remember that era or were young. Teams were scoring 80 or 90 on the regular. I remember the Pistons held I believe it was 5 straight opponents as in entire teams under 70 pts
. Scoring 100 was a big deal. You had 3 or 4 teams in the whole league giving you 100 every night. Compared to half the league doing it now. Whole teams are scoring now, not just one guy. Everybody is displaying their dominance and athleticism, not just one guy. What makes one guy doing it more exciting then everybody on the court doing it? That's like saying I prefer songs where only one guy has a nice verse or I prefer movies where only one of the actors performs well.Is watching a whole teams score 90 while shooting brick after brick really more exciting than watching teams score 110 while things operate smoothly and more efficiently? Efficiency=more made shots and less misses. Unless you enjoy wathcing nikkas miss shots
I'm not sure what the problem is.
@Swagnificent
It's ironic that you are lamenting about excitement and citing the early 2000's aka a low period in the league as an example of how the league should be. Either you don't remember that era or were young. Teams were scoring 80 or 90 on the regular. I remember the Pistons held I believe it was 5 straight opponents as in entire teams under 70 pts
Is watching a whole teams score 90 while shooting brick after brick really more exciting than watching teams score 110 while things operate smoothly and more efficiently? Efficiency=more made shots and less misses. Unless you enjoy wathcing nikkas miss shots
Wants to go back to the glory days of hoping tonight is the night your player "gets hot" so the team can win