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Wants to go back to the glory days of hoping tonight is the night your player "gets hot" so the team can win

If you want to shyt on the product today feel free. However to do so while holding up the early 2000s of all eras as some sort of beacon of entertainment is laughable.
 

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you can't really be saying that you prefer basketball today (as in this present season) over 2001-02 season for example? This season just might be the worst season in modern NBA history. Look at how many terrible teams there are. The fukking east has 2 teams over .500. There are barely any superstars left. I can't think of a lower period in the post-Magic/Bird NBA than today.

you seen to have forgetten how incredible the league was back in the early 00s during the height of isolation basketball


isolation basketball is what made the NBA what it is today.....its what made Michael Jordan the most popular athlete in history......its what made the pro game different from the college game......its what brought out the best in athleticism

the game we have today is much less entertaining and the drop off in attendance and TV viewership is clear evidence that fans prefer isolation basketball to the garbage we see today


I ain't reading all this mainly because you're not actually a fan of basketball or the NBA in general.
 

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That stat just means that individual players are shooting less fts (probably because they're less agressive, hardly anyone plays in the post and most games are jump-shooting contests), it doesn't say anything about overrall fouls called.


Actually, you can go back to the 90s on up till now, and there are less personal fouls now but hey that doesn't fit the argument :ld:
 

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It's ironic that you are lamenting about excitement and citing the early 2000's aka a low period in the league as an example of how the league should be. Either you don't remember that era or were young. Teams were scoring 80 or 90 on the regular. I remember the Pistons held I believe it was 5 straight opponents as in entire teams under 70 pts :scusthov:. Scoring 100 was a big deal. You had 3 or 4 teams in the whole league giving you 100 every night. Compared to half the league doing it now. Whole teams are scoring now, not just one guy. Everybody is displaying their dominance and athleticism, not just one guy. What makes one guy doing it more exciting then everybody on the court doing it? :dwillhuh: That's like saying I prefer songs where only one guy has a nice verse or I prefer movies where only one of the actors performs well.

Is watching a whole teams score 90 while shooting brick after brick really more exciting than watching teams score 110 while things operate smoothly and more efficiently? Efficiency=more made shots and less misses. Unless you enjoy wathcing nikkas miss shots :heh: I'm not sure what the problem is.


:russ: league average was

94.8ppg
95.5ppg
95.1ppg
93.4ppg


From 00-01 to 04-05.

This year we're sitting at 99ppg, last year was 98ppg basically dudes is a straight up clown.
 

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Actually, you can go back to the 90s on up till now, and there are less personal fouls now but hey that doesn't fit the argument :ld:

Dunno if you say this that I posted after...(was responding to someone else)

I think I get what you're saying. OVERRAL, there are less fouls called today. That makes perfect sense actually: as I said, most games are jump-shooting contests, and hardly anyone plays in the post now. Plus most defenses don't really contest. BUT what i meant is that we have WAAAAY more ticky-tack fouls for the few times someone actually goes to the rim than before.

So we might be talking about two different things. I don't mind seeing a lot of fouls because players are going to the basket and the defense is actually trying to contest, I grew up watching the Knicks/Heat/Bulls/Pacers battles. It comes with the territory: agressive basketball means a lot of fouls. But I DO mind when some guy drives, the defender looks like he's trying to get out the way and a "foul" is called because the offensive player threw his arms up. The way the game is played today it's amazing some guys end up with 4 fouls.

I mean if you looked up stats and it just so happens that there are less fouls called now, I won't argue with numbers. But then how I see it is that there were more fouls called before because players were more aggressive, defenses was actually defending, so it was expected that there would be more fouls. Nowadays there might be statiscally less fouls but watching a game there sure is a LOT of bs fouls being called, on stuff that hardly even impacts the game too. Might just be my perception.
 

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Dunno if you say this that I posted after...(was responding to someone else)



I mean if you looked up stats and it just so happens that there are less fouls called now, I won't argue with numbers. But then how I see it is that there were more fouls called before because players were more aggressive, defenses was actually defending, so it was expected that there would be more fouls. Nowadays there might be statiscally less fouls but watching a game there sure is a LOT of bs fouls being called, on stuff that hardly even impacts the game too. Might just be my perception.


We have more slashing PGs that get to the rack and put pressure on defense than at any point in league history, so you can't say players were more aggressive then.
 

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Late 90s/Early 00s was the worst brand of basketball in NBA history. Teams struggled to score 80 many times. The Pistons were celebrated for holding teams in the 60s for 5 games in a row and shyt. I will take a league average of 100 ppg now versus that shyt in the early 2000s.

There is less emphasis on one player dominating the game now. Plus nobody in the league now can score the way Kobe could back in the 2006 season, and Kobe had to do that on that team.
 

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We have more slashing PGs that get to the rack and put pressure on defense than at any point in league history, so you can't say players were more aggressive then.

GP, KJ, Iverson, Marbury, Francis and them weren't going to the rack? Van Exel, Cassel, Terrel Brandon...they were all getting to the basket.

Again it's context: given the lack of interior defense, one can be under the imrpession that players are more aggressive now. But they're aren't really attacking anyone. And guys were getting to the basket before EVEN THOUGH there was actually some D being played and Centers/PFs were contesting shots, not trying to draw the charge or actually avoid contact:snoop:. So I'll give them the nod.
 

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:russ: league average was

94.8ppg
95.5ppg
95.1ppg
93.4ppg


From 00-01 to 04-05.

This year we're sitting at 99ppg, last year was 98ppg basically dudes is a straight up clown.

Sadly it's not just him. I've seen numerous posters try to act like the early 2000s was some golden era. Yeah you had AI and T-Mac and Kobe and Shaq etc. going for 50 every so often. You had way more 84-77 brickfests. :heh:
 

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GP, KJ, Iverson, Marbury, Francis and them weren't going to the rack? Van Exel, Cassel, Terrel Brandon...they were all getting to the basket.

Again it's context: given the lack of interior defense, one can be under the imrpession that players are more aggressive now. But they're aren't really attacking anyone. And guys were getting to the basket before EVEN THOUGH there was actually some D being played and Centers/PFs were contesting shots, not trying to draw the charge or actually avoid contact:snoop:. So I'll give them the nod.


You just named a bunch of players, some of which didn't even overlap each others primes.

Irving, Westbrook, CP3, Rose, Rondo, Lillard, Wall, Lawson, Parker, Curry, Conley etc.

Every last one of these guys is very aggressive, whether it's searching for their shot, or just living in the lane looking for their teammates (Rondo/Conley).


Lack of interior defense, fam what are you talking about? So let me get this straight, there's no defense on the perimeter because of protecting perimeter players with cheap foul calls, and there's no interior defense as well? Yet some of the best defensive teams ever have played within the last 10 years, so how exactly are these teams doing it then?
 

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Late 90s/Early 00s was the worst brand of basketball in NBA history. Teams struggled to score 80 many times. The Pistons were celebrated for holding teams in the 60s for 5 games in a row and shyt. I will take a league average of 100 ppg now versus that shyt in the early 2000s.

There is less emphasis on one player dominating the game now. Plus nobody in the league now can score the way Kobe could back in the 2006 season, and Kobe had to do that on that team.

I think that if KD or Lebron put their mind to it they could approach what Kobe did that season. It's apparent that they are more interesting in replicating what he did in 00-02 and 09-10 (winning championships while putting up great numbers) rather than 06 (putting up ridiculous numbers en route a first round L).
 
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I think that if KD or Lebron put their mind to it they could approach what Kobe did that season. It's apparent that they are more interesting in replicating what he did in 00-02 and 09-10 (winning championships while putting up great numbers) rather than 06 (putting up ridiculous numbers en route a first round L).

:comeon:

find me one play where KD or Bron can do just one of the moves in this video

fukk outta here.....no playin right now could ever be Kobe....the nikka averged 35ppg with 2-3 nikkas draped on him every play
 

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find me one play where KD or Bron can do just one of the moves in this video

fukk outta here.....no playin right now could ever be Kobe


A. Way to ignore the previous post that was actually directed at you.

B. Did I say they could be Kobe (fukk does that even mean :wtf: There is only one Kobe) or did I say they could approach the numbers he put up in 06?
 
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