Article: Larry Bird Was Better Than LeBron

[Kd35brah]

No. Up until last year/finals, he was an MVP candidate and he almost won Finals MVP. And he still put up great numbers.

Stop acting like 2015 isn't prime Lebron (even if he started showing some slight signs of falling off).

Adding 2015 isn't purposefully downgrading his numbers at all.

His 09 season is up for debate as the best individual season of all time, top 3 at worst. He actually WON the MVP in 09, so your excuse doesn't make sense. Him almost winning FMVP was bullshyt, i really don't care.

Specifically leaving out 09 and adding 2015 is hilarious, there is a MASSIVE difference between the 2 seasons.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Horrible thread.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Who the hell didn't know Bird was better than Lebron?

It's common sense.

- More rings facing tougher competition.
- Better shooter by far
- Better rebounder by far
- Better post-up player by far
- Better passer
- Better footwork
- Better help/team defender
- Better team leader by far
- Better team player by far
- Mentally tougher, by far.
- Better competitor. Bird wanted to compete against Magic, Zeke, Bernard King, Worthy, Jordan, Dominique, etc., not join them.
- More clutch. Bird is the most clutch player in history. Pat Riley on who he would choose to take the last shot: "If I had to win a game, I'll pick Michael Jordan. If I had to bet my life, I'm picking Larry Bird."


So, what's there to talk about? Bird > Bron Bron.

Slap yourself.

 

[William F. Russell]

Horrible thread.

Your mom would make a great thread topic.

 

[Maximus]

Slap yourself.

Thank you for not making a point.

 

[I.V.]

2010-2015 was his prime as far as winning is concerned.

That's not what prime means.

 

[Miggs]

Look at his career. He played in Miami for 4 years only. When its all said and done and hes had a 19 or so year career. Yall gone be talking about them 4 years still? Thats a very small fraction of his career, and he had a 50% FINALS WIN rate with them. Which should be 75% because she should have won in 11'. And last year we know what happened. But

But he should of lost in 2013 so it evens out...

 

[Maschine_Man]

Outside shooting

He does everything better

huh?

Did you know that Bird averaged 10(3 more than bron) boards a games for his whole career?
while adding over 6 assists a game(same as Bron)?
both same blocks at .8 per game
they both had same steals 1.7 per game
Bird had less turnovers per game


I just looked up Shooting percentages between the two
both exactly .496 career shooting(how strange is that)
Larry Kills him in FT and 3p shooting though

Larry also played more than him 38+ minutes a game.




Its funny watching all these dudes in here saying how dominant and athletic Bron is compared to Bird yet bird was on par or even out matched him in all those stats.

You would figure Bron would have him beat in steals, blocks, rebounds, even playing time but naw....
So not only was LArry on par stat wise (or better) than Bron
He's got more CHampionships.



So can we end this charade now? Dudes talking like its such an insult that Bird is compared to or better than Bron don't even understand how Bird could be so diminant himself.

 

[Long Live The Mamba]

All u nikkaz gotta do, is put 2k16 in, pick the 86 Celtics vs the 2013 Heat, have the computer control both teams, and you'll see who's better.

SHEESH!

This is the most most logical way to settling this debate..



#Prayers

 

[cadillacsandcongac]

DIfferent phases of their careers. He played with prime Parish and Kevin Mchale

Lebrons early career was awesome in number and the eye test I agree, he's a once a lifetime all-time player. But the dude Bird LEAD his team to a Ring in his 2nd year(even though Maxwell won finals MVP) while McHale and Parrish were role players ( 1st and 2nd yrs in NBA). He didn't play with them, They Played with Bird! Bird was the Alpha Dog League and NBA FINALS MVP on these teams. He help to elevate Parish and McHale from Role Players to All Stars to Hall of Famers and not the other way around. There is no if this or if that or if coaching/ front office was better he would have narrative for Larry..... That's what gets my respect. Bird went out there and WON it. He also helped to make sure Parrish/McHale stepped up to the plate and played like champions because its not always about the star player stats but how they motivate and demand more from teammates and they go out and win ( imo what LeBron is missing). I don't see how Bird playing with Hall of Famers hurts his legacy because he didn't play with them, He Lead them which is a big difference. Its why he is a legend and top SF of all time to me. I don't care what organization they come into there will never be another Magic/Bird level of talent that comes in and transcends the game, dominates the league and become champions of the world in their first 2 years respectively. Like another poster said Bird was a 2nd yr player going against championship caliber teams led by MVPs and HOFs ( Prime MVPs HOF's Dr.J/Moses Malone/Magic/Kareem/Worthy led Philly /Hou/LA teams)

Birds 2nd year Playoff stats 21ppg 14rpg 6apg 2spg 1bpg en route to NBA Championship tops any of Lebrons achievements up until he won a championship.

Larry Bird

 

[LurkMoar]

Nikkas can never be objective about lebron i swear, so because larry is more clutch than lebron hes a better player? Even if the Numbers disprove that? The Same larry bird that got sonned by Magic and lebron is basically magic with God Like athleticism?(Bet this gets Quoted by biased fakkits)


Only Coli Nikkas could make me defend lebron

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

huh?

Did you know that Bird averaged 10(3 more than bron) boards a games for his whole career?
while adding over 6 assists a game(same as Bron)?
both same blocks at .8 per game
they both had same steals 1.7 per game
Bird had less turnovers per game


I just looked up Shooting percentages between the two
both exactly .496 career shooting(how strange is that)
Larry Kills him in FT and 3p shooting though

Larry also played more than him 38+ minutes a game.




Its funny watching all these dudes in here saying how dominant and athletic Bron is compared to Bird yet bird was on par or even out matched him in all those stats.

You would figure Bron would have him beat in steals, blocks, rebounds, even playing time but naw....
So not only was LArry on par stat wise (or better) than Bron
He's got more CHampionships.



So can we end this charade now? Dudes talking like its such an insult that Bird is compared to or better than Bron don't even understand how Bird could be so diminant himself.

A ngga who cant run or jump shouldn't be compared to Lb

Who are you taking both in their prime

If you gotta win 1 gm

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

Larry Bird was better than Lebron. Lebron is just popular today

Larry Bird didn't need to move to a different city to get a championship

Larry bird wasn't the type of player to fold under pressure, he was Jordan esque levels of clutch

Larry Bird has 3 rings

Larry Bird isn't as athletic as Lebron but he doesn't need to be, he's Larry Bird

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

fukk this article. There is no argument for Larry Bird being better than Lebron James. Period.

He had a prime D-Wade for one year. And that year they lost in the finals.

Im no Lebron stan, but his impact can;t be denied. What he did at such a young age all those years on the Cavs was amazing. Yall gotta stop.

Yes there is.

 

[onelastdeath]

Yes there is.

Absolutely Zero argument. Greatest Small Forward of all time. Anyone trying to actually debate that is trolling. Period.