Article: Larry Bird Was Better Than LeBron

[mr x]

Didn't expect bird to out block lebron

 

[nieman]

if larry bird played against zone defense AND today's talent he would be coming off the bench for half his career


bird better than lebron

kawhi leonard would eat larry bird fried

Um, Larry Bird is a shooter. No coach in their right mind would implement a zone defense against Bird. You know why zones were put in the NBA? It's because the jumpshot was dying and they needed ways to allow more open shots to get the points back up.

 

[TrebleMan]

What evidence led you to conclude their specific personality types?

Edit: the article you picked puts Shaq as an ISTP. Does Shaq strike you as someone who leads with Introverted thinking?

Well, dominant introverted thinking combined with auxillary extraverted sensing means better decision making when it comes to physical movements. Shaq was very fluid in his prime and even as his athleticism faded. Also as goofy as Shaq is, there is a very introspective quiet side to him with a mean streak. A lot of ISTP's have a goofiness to them that few share.

Also that guy is a legit counsel for many pro teams, just look up his name and see how many teams ask him to evaluate prospects' personality types when it comes draft time.

“You can take Red Auerbach, Jerry West, Phil Jackson. I’d take Jon Niednagel.” Boston Celtics boss Danny Ainge.
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[MAKAVELI25]

Well, dominant introverted thinking combined with auxillary extraverted sensing means better decision making when it comes to physical movements. Shaq was very fluid in his prime and even as his athleticism faded. Also as goofy as Shaq is, there is a very introspective quiet side to him with a mean streak. A lot of ISTP's have a goofiness to them that few share.

Also that guy is a legit counsel for many pro teams, just look up his name and see how many teams ask him to evaluate prospects' personality types when it comes draft time.

Shaq is not an introvert. Come on now. And on the off chance that he is he definitely doesn't lead with with the most introverted function (extroverted intuition is the most introverted extroverted function, introverted thinking is the most introverted function period. It's why INTP's are the most introverted personality type). I'd also expect someone like Shaq to make decisions more on emotions over logic which would lead me to believe he is an F type. Also, he is too socially adept to have Fe in the inferior. And he enjoys entertaining people which is more of an extrovert than introvert thing. Like I said, I strongly doubt that Shaq is an introvert and I even more strongly doubt that he leads with Introverted thinking.

 

[TrebleMan]

Shaq is not an introvert. Come on now. And on the off chsnce that he is he definitely doesn't lead with with the most introverted function (extroverted intuition is the most introverted extroverted function, introverted thinking is the most introverted function period. It's why INTP's are the most introverted personality type). I'd also expect someone like Shaq to make decisions more on emotions over logic which would lead me to believe he is an F type. Also, he is too socially adept to have Fe in the inferior. And he enjoys entertaining people which is more of an extrovert than introvert thing. Like I said, I strongly doubt that Shaq is an introvert and I even more strongly doubt that he leads with Introverted thinking.

Since you seem more familiar with it than I do:

Are you in agreement that Larry Bird is an ISTP? I think that completely fits.

I don't think LeBron is an ISTP.

This was my main point in the first place.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Since you seem more familiar with it than I do:

Are you in agreement that Larry Bird is an ISTP? I think that completely fits.

I don't think LeBron is an ISTP.

This was my main point in the first place.

I never saw Bird play and but I could buy Bron as an ESTP (as stated in the article). Bron has a high need for approval, I would say he either has Introverted feeling as his auxiliary or extroverted feeling as his tertiary. And he seems really close to his homeboys and like a social person in general, socially adept and whatnot, so my first impression is that he is an extrovert. People who excel at sports tend to be sensors also, so I could buy Bron as an ESTP but definitely some kind of extroverted perceiver.

 

[TrebleMan]

I never saw Bird play and but I could buy Bron as an ESTP (as stated in the article). Bron has a high need for approval, I would say he either has Introverted feeling as his auxiliary or extroverted feeling as his tertiary. And he seems really close to his homeboys and like a social person in general, socially adept and whatnot, so my first impression is that ue is an extrovert. People who excel at sports tend to be sensors also, so I could buy Bron as an ESTP but definitely some kind of extroverted perceiver.

Just think there's a lot of similarity with his ego and the way he plays the game (just like the video here they keep mentioning how he was a deep thinker on the court and aloof off of it) to match ISTP descriptions:


Yeah sensors seem to dominate sports, especially those with Se as either dominant or auxillary. But there are a few solid N's in basketball: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Tony Parker, Dirk Nowitzki and Jordan Clarkson are pretty rare INFP athletes. Interesting that 3 of those four are known for having shots that are considered un-blockable: sky-hook, floater, one-legged fadeaway respectively.

 

[bangbreh]

Wait never mind I forgot Bird played in the flawless 80s.

Bird playin against Laimbeer and them 80's goons gettin in fights.
Bron and those most embarrassing flops of his size and strength
Lacks killer mentality and chokes under pressure.
Not a question. I'm taking the dude who can shoot who's not afraid to put hands on folks.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Dude was nonathletic trash that doesnt change the fact that he is a winner man ... teammates or not.

And LeBron's not a winner - when he has a comparable win percentage to Bird with less help?

fukk Lebron's first stint ... you arent even listening to anything, you say lebron would win 5 titles with the celtics... but at the same time say Celtics were about team... so in your opinion basically lebron would be interchangable with bird "Since kevin mchale carried the load" who do you think is gonna carry lebrons load man?

I can barely comprehend what the fukk you're saying.

saying draymond green is the best defensive player in the league is retarded man

How the fukk is that retarded? He's near the top in defending iso, post, spot-up and PNR situations (no other player even comes close) - holding players to league-low percentages while having the biggest defensive workload in the league. He had the most first place votes for the DPOY last season, and only lost due to a technicality to Kawhi (due to not receiving enough second and third place votes because forgot to put him on their ballot).

and saying iggy is one of the best wing players all of a sudden is redundant too, Iggy has been nice since philly man....

How the fukk is it redundant, Iggy is still one of the best wing defenders in the league.

If Lebron is so dope in your eyes, then why are you making excuses now when I bring up Draymond Green, Andre Igoudala, Kawhi Leonard, Jason Kidd shutting him down in the finals, Shawn Marion talking that shyt and putting him in the cup, Kobe making him feel some type of way at the allstar game, Cleveland just got manhandled like 3 days ago and Lebron quit. If he is dope like you are fighting for, than why are you sticking up for the defensive players shutting him down?

What the fukk are you even talking about? You're not making one bit of sense.

You cant stick up for a dude and at the same time say "well draymond green is so good, oh and iggy is one of the best" which is it man? then who is better Lol the dude being shut down or the guy shutting him down? cause like i keep saying man... you can bring up who shut weak ass larry bird down. But he won in the end, he didnt quit or run from being a loser he fought, team or not and brought those larry o'briens home.

Why does the fact he had better teammates throughout his career escape your brain, as reasoning behind why he "won in the end"? They both got shut down during certain periods of their careers - difference is Bird had better teammates, which he could rely on to carry the load. If Bron had a shyt game or series - who's he going to depend on? Delonte? Mo? Ilgauskas?

And again like I said above, let's not act like their winning percentages in the regular season and playoffs aren't comparable. Bird fought because he was on a team that was surrounded with talent. Do we even have this conversation if he was drafted by any of the teams that picked before the Celtics in the '78 draft? Of course not.

Statistically hes a legend and one of the best to do it ... but that does not matter in a game decided by victory .. you get a glass paperweight when you do something statistically ... like kevin durant's whole closet pretty much. To your point about stats, if KD never wins... scoring titles or not ... he wont be remembered at all. People already dont talk about Dominique or shyt on him (like you did lol) so how are they gonna talk about KD if he doesnt win? Nobody is gonna bring up his scoring titles and shyt, just a limited highlight reel with a few important game winners and nothing really as exciting as Nique who is already forgotten.

How does this even make sense when LeBron is one of the most winningest players in NBA history?

 

[MalikReloaded]

You did not even accurately identify LeBron's prime. He averaged 30/8/7/2/1 in '06. You're including his 12th season as a part of his "prime" --

How do threads like this get made?

Lebron came out of high school. You're not in your prime when your 22 years old, jackass.

Your prime, in the nba, generally speaking is from 26-29.

 

[MalikReloaded]

Nikkas need to chill with the Bird disrespect. Dirk gave Kobe, Lebron and Durant the business during the 2011 playoffs. And Bird was better than Dirk. He didn't play in the 60s. He played in the 80s against the Showtime Lakers, Sixers, Pistons, etc. and he was giving all those dudes hell.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Nikkas need to chill with the Bird disrespect. Dirk gave Kobe, Lebron and Durant the business during the 2011 playoffs. And Bird was better than Dirk. He didn't play in the 60s. He played in the 80s against the Showtime Lakers, Sixers, Pistons, etc. and he was giving all those dudes hell.

And Bird OWNED mj head to head

 

[Big Boss]

Man bird was a bad boy

 

[Big Boss]

@Originalman what you think?

 

[BAMBA]

Having watched both play, I'd take Bird over LeBron...