At one Point DMX was considered better than Hov
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False.
DMX was arguably the better MC between 98-00.
Jay wasn’t even in his prime when he debuted. In my opinion, Jay didn’t reach his prime until 2000. That’s a scary thought in hindsight. DMX came out the gate on fire.
Jay would've been riding the wave had he put No Limit artists on HIS albums. They were reaching out to HIM. When you're piggybacking off of another artists, you're the one that's doing the reaching out. To say he was riding their wave is backward logic.
Well, Mystikal wasn't a part of a crew that consistently featured him on their albums.
No Limit had a sound, which was the stamp. I'd put money on most fans weren't copping No Limit albums in anticipation to hear a Master P verse like they were for Mystikal.
You're comparing two solo artists to a label. Jay Z and DMX didn't have an army of artists droppin' records every week with an in-house production squad, legal team, security, etc
It doesn't make sense to dub Mystikal the "most popular EMCEE in rap before DMX took over" and then say those No Limit albums were hot because of Master P's stamp. Still, a bigger case could be made for Silkk being more popular than Mystikal and Master P early 1998.
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
this is elitist talk.
bringing up faux 'knowledgable hip-hop heads' that don't particularly exist.
besides, most uppity type rap fans were too busy criticizing jiggas' every move.
@ the bolded.shoot, you didn't even have to be a serious follower.
jay was foxy brown's right-hand man.
almost everybody in school, even the corny kids knew about jay-z before reasonable doubt even dropped.
exactly.
youre proving my point breh.
its not.
we're saying that DMX was BOTH bigger AND better.
same level of corniness?
really?
you don't mean that.
I didn't say he rode their wave. I'm saying that if anybody was wave-hoppin, it would be jay.
most fans would take a beanie siegal verse over a jay-z verse. you see how that works? whose taking a mystikal ALBUM over a master p album tho?
rocafella wouldn't be able to drop albums every week like no limit did. their run wasn't strong enough. and nobody ever cared about bloodline records(which, by the way, included a former no limit d-list artist).
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he meant money cash hoes.... DMX had the line "jigga my nikka, rhyme all night" fun fact is he was actually referencing their pool hall battle that lasted about 5hours
Yeah. I’m not trying to shyt on that album. I bought it on release date and think it’s a really dope album. But this hip hop shyt is way deeper than we realize.
How many albums on this list would you put it over?
off top...all of them....some of those I havent heard Im not gonna lie. but the ones I have heard Its Dark And Hell Is Hot is better to me...it all depends on what you go by.. Im personally into the emotional effect music has.. plus X was no slouch as an MC either
Bro Jay-Z doesn’t have a better album then hoe let alone infamous.
I think hoes a classic 5 mic masterpiece. It’s in my top 5. Not only did prodigy spaz out with goat verses the beats are some of the hardest bass thumping classical music sampling grimy backdrops. That’s y :HavHollywood:on another level. I know some dudes say shyts repetitive but I see different. Every tracks a dagger to the throat. Ls is also 5 mics shyt will always sound fresh to me that’s the difference. Rza and hav some of the best to do it providing full length classics
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
Bro Jay-Z doesn’t have a better album then hoe let alone infamous.
Ls is also 5 mics shyt will always sound fresh to me that’s the difference. Rza and hav some of the best to do it providing full length classics
@ the bolded.
people say HOE is repeptitive, BECAUSE IT IS.
albums like "hell on earth" and "liquid swordz" are moreso cult classics for people who are deeply entrenched in that type of rap. that's the difference between those albums and joints like infamous, purple tape & 36 chambers.
Thats the best type tho its hard to restore that feeling. As far as im concerned those are 5 mics, and i know im not in a small margin that thinks that. If lad is a classic and if all eyez on me are classics which are 4 mic albums with filler then i feel like those albums are easily better without a doubt.
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Cheech&Chong
rip chinx
Reasonable Doubt was not a saught after album when it dropped but it is a top 20 goat album.
You could go either way with an answer on this and you wouldn't be wrong. Jay and X were 1a, 1b in the late 90s
You could go either way with an answer on this and you wouldn't be wrong. Jay and X were 1a, 1b in the late 90s
this is elitist talk.
bringing up faux 'knowledgable hip-hop heads' that don't particularly exist.
besides, most uppity type rap fans were too busy criticizing jiggas' every move.
shoot, you didn't even have to be a serious follower.
jay was foxy brown's right-hand man.
almost everybody in school, even the corny kids knew about jay-z before reasonable doubt even dropped.
exactly.
youre proving my point breh.
its not.
we're saying that DMX was BOTH bigger AND better.
same level of corniness?
really?
you don't mean that.
I didn't say he rode their wave. I'm saying that if anybody was wave-hoppin, it would be jay.
most fans would take a beanie siegal verse over a jay-z verse. you see how that works? whose taking a mystikal ALBUM over a master p album tho?
rocafella wouldn't be able to drop albums every week like no limit did. their run wasn't strong enough. and nobody ever cared about bloodline records(which, by the way, included a former no limit d-list artist).
In regard to "Kenny's Dead", the song is possibly cornier because it sounds like a parody of one of No Limit's tribute songs to dead homies. "Take Me Back" was a feature and even still not something targeted towards adults.
Jay verses in 1998 were far more of a selling point than Beanie Sigel's. Whose albums did what is beyond the point in regard to Mystikal. His features on No Limit releases had peiple coppin the albums.
Roc-A-Fella isn't droppin albums weekly for several reasons:
- no in house production squad
- Everybody from second and third cousins to bodyguards to the homie your brother is cool with wasn't droppin albums
- they didn't have booklets advertising albums 30 upcoming releases
- albums didn't play like compilations showcasing nearly every artist on the roster
/Exit Wounds/ are personal classics too
