Baker Mayfield looking like the BUST I told ya'll he would be....

[Remote]

Well you're definitely not black. I can spot your type from just the way you post. And FTR it ain't my fault you choose to ignore my second sentence which was the actual response to your post and instead just focused on two words.

Do certain races of people only type a certain way? This seems like the kind of stereotype people of ignorance love to propagate.

 

[Swagnificent]

Do certain races of people only type a certain way? This seems like the kind of stereotype people of ignorance love to propagate.

Its not about how you type. Its what you type. The CONTENT of your posts is how I can spot your kind. But it doesn't surprise me you would jump to the white supremacist conclusion that I was talking about grammar when nothing I said outright suggested that.

 

[Remote]

Its not about how you type. Its what you type. The CONTENT of your posts is how I can spot your kind. But it doesn't surprise me you would jump to the white supremacist conclusion that I was talking about grammar when nothing I said outright suggested that.

You actually think "the content" written by a group of people is a less stereotypical judgment?
You aren't that bright...

 

[Swagnificent]

You actually think "the content" written by a group of people is a less stereotypical judgment?
You aren't that bright...

You must got me confused with somebody else. I'm from the Malcolm X/Nation of Islam school of thought. I don't view ya'll as being the same as us. So yeah I stereotype. As black folks we are simply built differently which is why I can tell you ain't black simply from what you post.

 

[Remote]

You must got me confused with somebody else. I'm from the Malcolm X/Nation of Islam school of thought. I don't view ya'll as being the same as us. So yeah I stereotype. As black folks we are simply built differently which is why I can tell you ain't black simply from what you post.

Oh, I see.

You believe there are different types of races within races.
Sort of like "X person may be black, but they're not black black...based on what they type". And this is relevant to the thread because? Because nothing. You got exposed as a fraud who makes generalizations because you lack the expertise to get into the details.

But explain what "tools" Baker Mayfield is missing? Because mobility aint the problem. Mechanics aint the problem. Arm strength aint the problem.
Just admit you claimed Baker was gonna struggle but you had no earthly idea why he would.

 

[InstantKlassik]

I couldn’t be happier


fukk this entitled Cac

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Baker overrated, but so is Odell. If they want to try and get anything out of Baker, they need to trade Odell

 

[Swagnificent]

But explain what "tools" Baker Mayfield is missing? Because mobility aint the problem. Mechanics aint the problem. Arm strength aint the problem.
Just admit you claimed Baker was gonna struggle but you had no earthly idea why he would.

Here's my breakdown of Baker Mayfield before the 2018 draft: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/swags-2018-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings.626851/

As you can see from my rankings, I'm not that high on Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma). I honestly don't get the hype surrouding him. I know he was a successful college QB, but college and the NFL are two different things. I'm not even that hung up on his off-field issues (which are a concern). My main issue with him is on-field ability. I don't think he has the physical skill set to be great QB in the NFL. His size is a concern. And unlike Russell Wilson (who Mayfield has unfairly been compared to) he lacks the elite athleticism to make up for his stature. The offense he came out of is also a concern. There is very little in the form of NFL throws from Mayfield's college tape. More than any other QB in this class, Baker Mayfield is a complete projection because there is little to take from his success in college that translates to the NFL. I don't get why people are ignoring these concerns but in my opinion he's the riskiest QB prospect in this class. There are too many questions surrounding him for me to use a 1st or 2nd round pick on him. I believe he's the most likely bust in this QB class.

I'm not in the business of repeating my in-depth evaluations every time I talk about a player. So don't take the fact I haven't broken down his flaws every post as a sign I never did before. I clearly laid out my case against Mayfield before the 2018 draft. And thus far I've been proven right.

 

[Remote]

Swagnificent: As you can see from my rankings, I'm not that high on Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma). I honestly don't get the hype surrouding him. I know he was a successful college QB, but college and the NFL are two different things. I'm not even that hung up on his off-field issues (which are a concern). My main issue with him is on-field ability. I don't think he has the physical skill set to be great QB in the NFL.

His physical tools are not what is holding him back. So what are you even criticizing here?

Swagnificent: His size is a concern.

Not the reason why he's holding on to the ball so long. So far irrelevant at the NFL level.

Swagnificent: And unlike Russell Wilson (who Mayfield has unfairly been compared to) he lacks the elite athleticism to make up for his stature.

This is more of an X-factor that makes players like Wilson and Lamar Jackson valuable. But this is not the main reason Mayfield struggles.

Swagnificent: The offense he came out of is also a concern. There is very little in the form of NFL throws from Mayfield's college tape. More than any other QB in this class, Baker Mayfield is a complete projection because there is little to take from his success in college that translates to the NFL. I don't get why people are ignoring these concerns but in my opinion he's the riskiest QB prospect in this class. There are too many questions surrounding him for me to use a 1st or 2nd round pick on him. I believe he's the most likely bust in this QB class.

The only point I agree with. Only it took you forever in posts and in this paragraph to get to the point. This was the primary reason for concerns about Mayfield. Not the final throw-in that you chose to end this with. The tools for Baker are there. What failed him was the lack of grooming Cleveland has afforded him thusfar. He's simply not ready, and now the expectations are such that he cannot afford to learn on the job.

 

[JLova]

Welp, yet another overhyped white QB I was right about.

 

[Microfracture]

You this loud when you're wrong too? I promise you nobody gives a fukk you predicted that a Browns QB would be ass.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Predictions aren't the same thing as talent evaluation. My evaluation skills have been damn near flawless. And I've done it by not cosigning the consensus but rather by going against it. I was the first to call out Markelle Fultz as a bust and Jayson Tatum as the #1 prospect from the 2017 draft. I was also the first to say Mayfield was trash and Lamar Jackson/Josh Allen were the top QBs in the 2018 draft.

There are only so many drafts. If I'm continually uppin threads where I was right, then I must have a pretty high hit percentage.

Most of the Coli actually got this right may be because we black but we did I know I did and was begging my Browns to draft him and not touch Darnold or Baker.

 

[Bigblackted4]

No, predictions are not the same as talent evaluation.

But they're closely linked. And when it comes to evaluating talent, the entire point is to project how they might perform at the pro level. So when you're sitting here patting yourself on the back because Josh Allen dinked and dunked his way down the field 46 times against the single worst team in the league, you're clearly ignoring a lot of context.

With regard to Baker Mayfield, let's keep things clear. You claiming Mayfield would be a bust wasn't exactly some out of the way bold call.
Mayfield projected better than that bum Cleveland had in Manziel, but Mayfield was still an undersized, standing way back in a shotgun formation, not super athletic quarterback who should have realistically gone in the 3rd or 4th round as a project.

Baker's problems are not mechanically driven but rather the fact that he's slow to process information at the highest level. Over his 2 years in the league he's continuously ranked near the bottom in time to throw.

But you're not here specifying why Baker's struggling. You're just saying "he's gonna be a bust"...."he doesn't have the tools"....upping the thread saying "see, he's a bust" and that's it.
So where's the evaluation coming in?

The problem isn't that Baker can't run like Lamar Jackson. That's not holding him back, plenty of QBs in the league don't run. The problem isn't that Baker has a weak arm. His arm strength is fine.
The only tool Baker lacks is the one between his ears.

He also bails anytime a hint of pressure comes which we should have seen from the tape against Georgia. If he stepped into most his throws he’d be the same QB. He basically needs a clean pocket to be successful.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Baker overrated, but so is Odell. If they want to try and get anything out of Baker, they need to trade Odell

Bakers problems aren’t helped by having Odell. He needs to be traded but he has things he desperately needs to work on.

 

[Remote]

He also bails anytime a hint of pressure comes which we should have seen from the tape against Georgia. If he stepped into most his throws he’d be the same QB. He basically needs a clean pocket to be successful.

Buying time within the pocket is a huge thing for a successful QB. Marino and Brady are the best I've seen at doing that. And of course Mayfield would benefit if he stayed in the pocket more and was able to buy those precious half seconds. I don't want to say it's a matter of the offensive line though. I feel like after a while that becomes a cop out. While a strong pocket matters, the good ones adapt and overcome. You give any QB 4 seconds back there...they're gonna find the open guy.