breh you trippin. Capitalism existed before whites conquered the world and will exist after the fall
for fukk sake man
Banks foreclosing on churches in record numbers
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for fukk sake man
Ironically, the mega churches that actually prey on people will be fine .....capitalism
They need to start taxing them and make millions more in the tax revenues.
Red Shield
Global Domination
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It seems like you're in denial about how Africans were introduced to Christianity in the west. When I went to church with my girl a few months back, this was the picture of Jesus that was on the stain glass window of this multi million dollar property, I'm sure you've seen a similar picture in the house of some black Christians you know:
When I went to the Dominican Republic, I saw the same images of white Jesus plastered all over these large churches filled with dark skinned people bowing down to him. Here's pictures from my trip.
They said this lady was here for hours. She just sat there staring at the white Jesus statue and praying and crying.
Go to South America and you'll see the exact same thing. Dark skinned people bowing down and praying to a white savior. I'll say it again, if you're in the western hemisphere, Christianity is the religion of your slave masters.
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daboywonder2002
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We need the old school feel of churches back. I get that you wanna be up to date with technology. But religion isn't about that. you dont have huge plasma tvs on every corner. You dont need to record the video service. if you miss it, that's on you. Scale back some and go back to the basics.
Uncle Kingpin
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So if you fund everything based on what is given, how do you go into debt? Alot of these churches are way over 30+ years old so there shouldn't be a mortgage left to pay. Jesus didn't have flashy suits and italian leather shoes, he wore the same robe and sandals every day. Jesus didn't have a house, he sometimes slept outside. Remember this, Jesus forgave prostitutes, thieves and murderers...but the only time he ever got mad was when they were doing money changing and dong business in the church. He flipped their tables, made a whip and whipped their asses out of his father's house. So from the beginning Christianity was not about money. If they read the Old Testament, they would know interest (usury) is forbidden so they shouldn't have gotten any loans in the first place.
It doesn't even if those two were universally loved or accepted, it is the fact that who do we have today that everyone recognizes that is trying to unify the black community to their cause like MLK, Malcolm X or even an Earnest Thomas? Who's the person(s) that any substantial portion of the community is supposed to get behind?
Here's an example of a Church taking a leadership position in a community for an issue
Baltimore Churches Respond to Freddie Gray and Police Brutality - World Religion News
Baltimore Church Dedicating Youth Center To Freddie Gray
Things like that article happen in black communities all the time, it's just not on the scale that it used to be.
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It's not a house, it's a residential center
Verbal Kint
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It seems like you're in denial about how Africans were introduced to Christianity in the west. When I went to church with my girl a few months back, this was the picture of Jesus that was on the stain glass window of this multi million dollar property, I'm sure you've seen a similar picture in the house of some black Christians you know:
When I went to the Dominican Republic, I saw the same images of white Jesus plastered all over these large churches filled with dark skinned people bowing down to him. Here's pictures from my trip.
They said this lady was here for hours. She just sat there staring at the white Jesus statue and praying and crying.
Go to South America and you'll see the exact same thing. Dark skinned people bowing down and praying to a white savior. I'll say it again, if you're in the western hemisphere, Christianity is the religion of your slave masters.
Assume I'm in denial based on....what exactly? We didn't have a conversation so you don't know what I think about this so save the silliness. To your other point, I (and many others) are fully aware of the purposeful white washing of Jesus by Europeans. You won't find a single image of Christ at all in my church, definitely not some blonde Jesus. Also won't find Jesus with dreads and dark brown skin. But you didn't answer my question: If blacks can't practice Christianity, who can practice what? I mean you're claiming to be an authority in this so I'd love to see your list
This article is 4 years old.
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Verbal Kint
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Again yall are ignoring the part where ALL the money comes from the congregation. If a church has 100 members and gets say $8K a month in tithes/offerings consistently, they'll budget according to that. Mortgage, utilities, paying the secretary and the pastor, etc. Plus many churches give to other ministries and missions as well. Then if people stop giving and soon you're only getting $5K a month you run into problems. Ya'll keep assuming the churches are over spending and while that's probably the case for some, its not for all. My pastor stopped accepting a salary for a while last year because money was tight after tithing dropped off for a few reasons.
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The bolded is the question that I'm asking. Why isn't it on the scale that it used to be? Black churches not just in the 60s, but coming out of slavery (like Denmark Vesey and the AME church) all the way up to the CRM collectively fought on behalf of black people. In the very article you posted you have one pastor taking a leadership role (which is what they should be doing) and another pastor low key c00ning:
What happened after the Civil Rights Movement that caused the black church to be in the condition it's in? I know Bush's faith based initiative had a big push in further weakening the black church, but that doesn't account for the previous 50 or so years of ineffectiveness.
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I didn't say black people can't practice Christianity. Blacks can practice any religion they want (especially considering the oldest version of Christianity on the planet is in Ethiopia). But the reality is our implementation of Christianity in the west is taken straight out of the European version of Christianity.
And while your church doesn't have iconography of a white savior, the legacy and history of Christianity in the west for black people is undeniably one of a white savior. You're church historically is an outlier.
The Ethiopian Coptic church however does believe in having pictures of their God that looks like them. It's the only version of Jesus they accept, but they accepted Christianity by choice and not force.
Verbal Kint
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I'm not going to argue about the theological leanings of people as they're all over the place but many Christians are encouraged to actually read the text and draw their conclusions from there. Of course the whitewashing has an influence on those raised in American culture but that's true of many facets of life beyond religion. Unless you're claiming that people that aren't you aren't intellectually capable of understanding these things you're still claiming to be the one that knows who should practice what.Blacks can practice any religion they want (especially considering the oldest version of Christianity on the planet is in Ethiopia). But the reality is our implementation of Christianity in the west is taken straight out of the European version of Christianity.
And while your church doesn't have iconography of a white savior, the legacy and history of Christianity in the west for black people is undeniably one of a white savior. You're church historically is an outlier.
The Ethiopian Coptic church however does believe in having pictures of their God that looks like them. It's the only version of Jesus they accept, but they accepted Christianity by choice and not force.
