Barack Obama: Africa should stop making economic excuses

[Poitier]

And to the dude that negged me with "nah" and then came with shyt like "what is a real african?" a real african is someone born and raised in africa. g

Good god this dude is stupid


Steve Nash and Charlize Theron real Africans

 

[Poitier]

You know that you could remove the word "African" from both of those sentences and replace it with various other countries and it would still ring true, right?

Is the last african nation to have thrown off the chains of its colonial forefathers doing the best (SA)





And to the dude that negged me with "nah" and then came with shyt like "what is a real african?" a real african is someone born and raised in africa. glad i could clear that up. you're still african enough to rep the homeland and rock that wooden africa piece if it makes you feel any better though

Africa's 1st priority should be slaughtering c00ns like you

 

[Trajan]

You do know that there was direct European occupation and subservience in a number of African countries until the 70-80s, right? And that various Western powers have assassinated African leaders who would have helped inspire the people to revolt? There are so many problems, that differ from country to country that comparisons to South America, and the Middle East are pointless.

• Socialism, which is the backbone of the rest of the world's revolutions from their captors doesn't have a chance in most African countries due to the extreme methods upon which it was abused.
• You understand that before the Cacs were using Africa like a treasure chest, there were Middle Eastern powers attempting to do the same? ts been over a millenia of struggles for power.
• The entire continent was drawn up by people who had no idea what they were doing, internal problems are a massive issue.
• One word: warlords.
• You know how taxes were introduced in quite a few places? Cutting off hands. Try implementing a tax structure when that is the definition of the word.
• Rwandan Genocide was in 1994, as a direct result of Belgium's occupation.
• You can blame a country's poverty on White people as long as they are keeping the country poor. And that is happening in most of Africa.
• You can't say that because some people were able to "bounce back from genocide" that all people are. Comparisons are nearly impossible.
• Asia is a continent too. Radically different events have happened there, leaders have taken different methods, and there have been different industrialization periods.
• It has nothing to do with "dispersing money."
• What Africa really needs, is a coalition army, that is not divided by nationality, a massive educational and social revolution, a method of breaking the chains of neo-colonialism, a reduction in religious fervor, a breaking up of child slavery, industrialism that would resemble the Soviet Union's, an integration of modern farming methods, a period of mass isolationism, WMDs, and a lot of other things that aren't just going to happen at once. I have a few books you might want to read to help you understand: Wretched of the Earth, Toward the African Revolution, & the Dying Colonialism all by Franz Fanon. A Problem From Hell and Realising Human Rights both by Samantha Power. I'll make a thread to help you guys out with understanding the insurmountable task of turning a continent that has been raped, into a superpower.

Very good points. +rep

But what Africa is lacking right now are inclusive political and economic institutions and most importantly the political will to make it happen. African leaders are not dumb. They just have different incentives when making decisions.

There are powerful elites with vested interests in the status quo.

 

[humble forever]

Africa's 1st priority should be slaughtering c00ns like you

why don't you get over and tell them about what they need to do to fix themselves


so quick to hate on the west, you think selling out to the chinese is a "better alternative"


you the keyboard c00n here




thomas' plan is not realistic, and i wish you could see that. "a period of mass isolationism"

 

[EndDomination]

Very good points. +rep

But what Africa is lacking right now are inclusive political and economic institutions and most importantly the political will to make it happen. African leaders are not dumb. They just have different incentives when making decisions.

There are powerful elites with vested interests in the status quo.

Which begs the question, what would bring about the political will? nearly every revolution, or even moderate reform thats been brought about has be squashed,. Now there are leaders like Goodluck Jonathan and Robert Mugabe who occasionally show some initiative, but get lost in their own foolish ideologies.

 

[EndDomination]

why don't you get over and tell them about what they need to do to fix themselves


so quick to hate on the west, you think selling out to the chinese is a "better alternative"


you the keyboard c00n here




thomas' plan is not realistic, and i wish you could see that. "a period of mass isolationism"

I said its not realistic. Which is the point. Its not easy to fix the problem.

 

[Poitier]

Which begs the question, what would bring about the political will? nearly every revolution, or even moderate reform thats been brought about has be squashed,. Now there are leaders like Goodluck Jonathan and Robert Mugabe who occasionally show some initiative, but get lost in their own foolish ideologies.

I think Goodluck Jonathan is far more proative than Robert Mugabe.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

I think Goodluck Jonathan is far more proative than Robert Mugabe.

nonsense

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

He really is being both ******ish and cacerish at once... ignorant about the moves these nations are already making.... while he also fighting with africom to make African nations militaries pawns to US interest. Obama would rather feed 'aid' to corrupt leaders while people starve.

so is it good vs evil?
or wrong vs wrong?

 

[EndDomination]

I think Goodluck Jonathan is far more proative than Robert Mugabe.

Far more. But Robert did bring about moderate peace for a short period of time. Along with ethnic cleansing. Neither is an ideal leader, and Robert Mugabe is getting too old, and is still abusing his power. And Goodluck Jonathan is basically a well-educated Sarah Palin when it comes to politics. Homphobia included.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Far more. But Robert did bring about moderate peace for a short period of time. Along with ethnic cleansing. Neither is an ideal leader, and Robert Mugabe is getting too old, and is still abusing his power. And Goodluck Jonathan is basically a well-educated Sarah Palin when it comes to politics. Homphobia included.

who is more patriotic?

 

[Trajan]

Which begs the question, what would bring about the political will? nearly every revolution, or even moderate reform thats been brought about has be squashed,. Now there are leaders like Goodluck Jonathan and Robert Mugabe who occasionally show some initiative, but get lost in their own foolish ideologies.

For the most part, revolutions just replace one group of elites with a new one. How many revolutionary movements in Africa effected change for the common man? God knows there have been countless coups and counter-coups. The problem is that the system is inherently extractive. It's a continuation of colonialism but instead of white men with guns it's elites who look like you. The new revolutionaries just inherit the parasitic system.

As far as the bolded, sometimes you get certain individuals that go some way towards changing things. E.g Paul Kagame of Rwanda. Not sure how well the Hutus are treated there but it might have been expected for him to come riding back into Kigali on a Tutsi supremacy wave. He seems to have bucked that trend and all positive measures of development are on the up and up. Clean, safe and nicely designed cities and negligible incidents of corruption

Currently though, not many countries are on this path.

But I'm still hopeful because Africa is a young continent...increasingly connected to the world...and better educated. I think alot of today's youth and ones of the future will not stand for the fukkk shyt especially when they see everyone else progressing and developing. Africa has a growing middle class and that usually goes hand-in-hand with demands for political freedom. They increasingly expect more from their leaders and hopefully they will force them to create inclusive institutions which will then naturally trigger development.

 

[No1]

Obama's not entirely wrong, but as an American president, he's the wrong person to be giving this speech.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

All you clowns claiming Africa needs to help itself needs to read the book "Confession's of a Economic Hitman" by John Perkins. It'll really open your eyes to the demonic games these cacodemons play, trust me.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

He commented on Africa a bit in this current press conference. I dont think he amended his mentioning of "making excuses", but I thought he talked well of Africa..mentioning 6/10 fastest growing economies are in Africa, high growth rate, good talent and entrepreneurs and actually mentioned Brazil/India/China doing business with them, and not doing so just for resources as has been done traditionally in the past.