BARBERSHOP TALK: Was "INTEGRATION" A MISTAKE Looking Back At It?

[NoChillJones]

Yea woke, I been thru the furnace of life and its ability to forge something greater
I'm.good breh.

Just wanted to rip through your ridiculous pov.. If you are black and alive today, you are reaping the benefits of what those who came before you sacrificed. Those are the people who truly had to live on their knees, and who many sacrificed their lives so you can have better. As a black man if you can't respect that, I can't respect you. Nobody is making you live on your knees today. We all have opportunities so many generations before us did not. But instead of paying homage, yall would rather throw them under the bus. Like the nerve of you cowards. You know nothing of life before you were spat out your mothers p*ssy, And to many of you refuse to actually study it. But you will to go a youtube lecture and be told about your people instead of looking it up for yourselves.

 

[NoChillJones]

Personally, I think as a whole, black people just weren't ready for integration.

Question. Was integration a black idea? or was that the white solution to black unrest and uprising?

Stop saying Integration and start saying Civil Rights. That gives a better realistic outlook on what took place. An for the record. Civil Rights was a necessity put in place by us.......

 

[skeetsinternal]

Just wanted to rip through your ridiculous pov.. If you are black and alive today, you are reaping the benefits of what those who came before you sacrificed. Those are the people who truly had to live on their knees, and who many sacrificed their lives so you can have better. As a black man if you can't respect that, I can't respect you. Nobody is making you live on your knees today. We all have opportunities so many generations before us did not. But instead of paying homage, yall would rather throw them under the bus. Like the nerve of you cowards. You know nothing of life before you were spat out your mothers p*ssy, And to many of you refuse to actually study it. But you will to go a youtube lecture and be told about your people instead of looking it up for yourselves.

OK imma dead this real quick...
Question: how do you feel about Obama

 

[NoChillJones]

OK imma dead this real quick...
Question: how do you feel about Obama

Much ado about nothing. Good for our children to see a black man in such an important role. In that aspect it was a great look.
As far as doing more for black folks, as a black man in the role he was in, realistically that wasn't really possible.....but several of the bills passed under his watch were with us in mind (however they were cloaked)

His refusal to speak against racism was criminal however. I don't get caught up in the whole he didn't do enough for us, cause that is bullshyt imo. Being the first black president is more then enough in that aspect. But the fact he never dropped his nuts and spoke to racism for what it was in America was a disappointment. If he did nothing else, he should have done that........

Would ask how you feel, but I already know. You one of those people that put down the people who walked the line for you while you refuse to walk it your self. All the while criticizing how others are walking it.

 

[skeetsinternal]

Much ado about nothing. Good for our children to see a black man in such an important role. In that aspect it was a great look.
As far as doing more for black folks, as a black man in the role he was in, realistically that wasn't really possible.....but several of the bills passed under his watch were with us in mind (however they were cloaked)

His refusal to speak against racism was criminal however. I don't get caught up in the whole he didn't do enough for us, cause that is bullshyt imo. Being the first black president is more then enough in that aspect. But the fact he never dropped his nuts and spoke to racism for what it was in America was a disappointment. If he did nothing else, he should have done that........

Would ask how you feel, but I already know. You one of those people that put down the people who walked the line for you while you refuse to walk it your self. All the while criticizing how others are walking it.

I figured you would say this except the part about Obama being criminal, which I agree. I'm not shytting on those who paved a way.. the way they paved is what cacs conditioned and trained them to do.
Obama was the WOAT. Fuk that nikka. Listen breh, it's seldom I meet like minded people, you just not one of them. I view you as with them and not us type of thing. I know where you stand and now you know where I stand

 

[NoChillJones]

I figured you would say this except the part about Obama being criminal, which I agree. I'm not shytting on those who paved a way.. the way they paved is what cacs conditioned and trained them to do.
Obama was the WOAT. Fuk that nikka. Listen breh, it's seldom I meet like minded people, you just not one of them. I view you as with them and not us type of thing. I know where you stand and now you know where I stand

I can respect opinions, but when you start determining how black a person is based on their views just because they differ from yours. I put you in a category too, its the dumbass shyt for brains category. I mean he was the first black president , a feat YOU WILL NEVER EVER top. And Im not saying that's the end all be all, but I am saying that something he did for black people that you will never be able to compete with breh.

 

[SirReginald]

@JudgeJoeGorilla why you create this thread, I'm gonna be on edge tonight dealing with these entitled cacs/Latinos at the club tonight

Because these issues need to be discussed. LOL have fun at the club breh it's Friday In all seriousness, we as AA's need to figure out/revisit our past to make positive strides for our future.

 

[SirReginald]

This is a good conversation to have at the family table or gathering. I'll have to ask my parents since they lived before & after desegregation. They can give a fair assessment.

My parents and I kinda differ on this issue. I agree more with the Malcolm X approach (we should've integrated ONCE we established ourselves). However, i had great admiration for Dr. King. I respect all ethnic groups and we're all people with families. My fight is that I want my Black folk to do well also. I will still align and fight alongside with other oppressed groups (poor whites, hispanics, Syrians, and etc). Now, my parents agreed with the MLK way through out.

 

[SuperGrizzy]

This thread is pure fukkery

 

[SirReginald]

We need our reperations, bottom line. Any white man that doesnt want us to get it, is written off as a racist in my eyes...any black man who disagrees isnt my brother.

Integration without reparations is the problems, we dont have the finances to compete and keep up with a crakkka who will just keep changing the rules and moving the goalposts on a people who were fukking slaves a little over a 100 years ago. Its like entering a high stakes poker game with 10 dollars...you will just be exploited.

Reparations should be paid back in investing in the communities of AA's and helping them set up businesses. Also, help them connect with their other Africans abroad and grow the continent of Africa. I don't agree with totally money form without a plan. Us Black-Americans need a plan for those reparations for our future generation. I explained this on FB.

P.S. that includes NOT gentrifing AA communities and getting these people to have a fair share of the U.S. economy. Since this country was built off the backs of the poor hispanics, Blacks, and etc.

 

[Wild self]

MLK was a programmed c00n and the black church working with the government. The preaching of nonviolence as the way to go was the doctrine they used to control blacks. Malcolm's doctrine was the opposite, his doctrine was basically not to turn the other cheek and if you smack me I'm gonna smack you back

Dont listen to the white man's version of MLK. He was for black empowerment and black owned businesses at his later years of his life. He even made a statement that "black is beautiful"

 

[PerrinN]

MLK was a programmed c00n and the black church working with the government. The preaching of nonviolence as the way to go was the doctrine they used to control blacks. Malcolm's doctrine was the opposite, his doctrine was basically not to turn the other cheek and if you smack me I'm gonna smack you back

i need a break from Coli, jesus christ

 

[SirReginald]

I don't believe it was mistake. I also don't believe that the end goal is some integrated happy happy world with whites and blacks holding hands.

What integration has done is given us access to resources that we didn't have before. Experience in fields we didn't have access to. A much larger base of educational and employment opportunities.

The goal should be to take that and create something for ourselves out of it. Develop our niches in different industries while utilizing the resources and connections developed from an integrated society.

There's a rhetoric that Black Wall Street was the norm, and the blacks were thriving prior to integration. But very few people from that time period are echoing those sentiments. They went to the underfunded schools, forced to join the military or work in blue collar jobs because there was no access to anything better, didn't have access to the same business loans, etc.
I'm sure things would have gotten better just with time even in a segregated society, but I think we are in a much better position now.

Thank you for this honest answer/response.

 

[SirReginald]

"Whoever doesn't want to live next to me and my heroin addicted family, must be an idiot". "If you don't love this country who fukked your ancestors, you must be an idiot."

fukk you white boy, I don't believe your opinion was asked for in the first place. What white man would actually speak the truth on this issue? LMAO!

They're giving out testers somewhere in your city, get it while its hot crakkka.

ANYWAY

Millions of black people locked up. Thousands of black people murdered every year. Hundreds of black men shot by the police.

We all hate each other.


You think this is not by design? How can you "integrate" into a society WHO NEVER WANTED YOU OTHER THAN THEIR SLAVE? And all the back room plotting these whites most certainly engaged in, doesn't seem successful to you?

Listen, say your view without insulting others. This isn't a thread to display ignorance, but thought provoking intelligence.

 

[SirReginald]

I also look at my Afro-Ricans and Brazilians/Cubans & we hardly connect with them The people who celebrate Black ancestry we need to reconnect with them. By 2050 the continent of Africa will have a THRIVING middle-class according to statistics. It saddens me what's going on between the Hausa and Igbos in Nigeria. They want to separate (Igbos) and recreate Biafra. We also have a civil war in South Sudan right now My point is that we HAVE to do better.