Basketball heads, is Steph Curry stoppable?

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Nah.

 

[TrebleMan]

Nope.

Dude is literally doing video game stuff:

Not even the NBA 2K developers can keep up with Stephen Curry

Not even the NBA 2K developers can keep up with Stephen Curry The makers of the NBA 2K video game series are having a heck of a time balancing what's been an ongoing battle against "3-point cheese" — a user's annoying but effective reliance on long-distance attempts to swing games — with the reality that Curry is doing exactly that in real life,according to Forbes Magazine.

A player putting up "video-game numbers" is a cliche all too common in the basketball vernacular. Except, with Curry, that's actually an understatement. When he dropped 51 points and finished 11-of-15 from 3-point range against the Wizards earlier this month, ESPN Stats & Information asked NBA 2K to run 50 simulations, and the results came in well short of his 29.8 points and 4.7 successful 3-pointers per game.

“To be completely honest, we are still looking for ways to better translate his game into NBA 2K,” says Wang. “He’s a ‘rule breaker’ when it comes to jump shooting … he becomes a problem in the video game world where we’ve been trying to train our gamers [to know] that certain types of shots should be rewarded versus others.

“We’re going to have to invest even more time in future iterations to really let Steph be Steph in future versions of NBA 2K.”

Not even video games can keep up with him in real life.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is the article that took my impressions of Curry to the next level.

"So aside from the rare smothering, Curry seems fairly immune to defense. He hits about 42 percent of the hardest quartile(ish) of his shots (specifically, the 28 percent with the closest defender less than 4 feet away), or about 126 points per 100 attempts. In other words, if Golden State could replace its entire offense with just the bottom quartile of Stephen Curry’s 3-point attempts — without him ever being fouled and with them never collecting an offensive rebound — they would have the best offense in NBA history by a wide margin."




These graphs are level.

The shot clock doesn't affect him, defense doesn't affect him unless he's completely smothered (which is rarely possible for an entire possession), he is deadly n pull-up threes which are hard as hell for everyone else, and he seems to be getting better and better....what would happen if he actually tried to take all the shots in a game?


"Curry takes a huge portion of his three-point shots early in the shot clock (more than 50 percent) and is deadly on these. His worst time frame is with around 12 to 16 seconds left — where he has still made 42 percent. Then, he somehow shoots better and better as the clock runs down! In addition to being another example of how the traditional ideas of “good” and “bad” shots don’t really apply to Curry, this also has the very practical implication that Curry’s teammates should be willing to pass up reasonably good shots even if it means Curry will have less time to set up his own."

 

[TrebleMan]

I tried to tell cats there's never been anybody who's more efficient and accountable for total points like Curry. You give him Wilt's and Jordan's minutes at his rate and he beats how many points their responsible for if you combine assists and points for all of them.

At the end of the day, 3's are worth more than 2's. You practically have the Spurs' whole offensive philosophy (get easy 3 pointers) in one guy. Dude is like a living offensive philosophy. Only time dude doesn't have an easy 3 is when he's shooting inside the arc.

 

[threattonature]

This is the article that took my impressions of Curry to the next level.

"So aside from the rare smothering, Curry seems fairly immune to defense. He hits about 42 percent of the hardest quartile(ish) of his shots (specifically, the 28 percent with the closest defender less than 4 feet away), or about 126 points per 100 attempts. In other words, if Golden State could replace its entire offense with just the bottom quartile of Stephen Curry’s 3-point attempts — without him ever being fouled and with them never collecting an offensive rebound — they would have the best offense in NBA history by a wide margin."




These graphs are level.

The shot clock doesn't affect him, defense doesn't affect him unless he's completely smothered (which is rarely possible for an entire possession), he is deadly n pull-up threes which are hard as hell for everyone else, and he seems to be getting better and better....what would happen if he actually tried to take all the shots in a game?


"Curry takes a huge portion of his three-point shots early in the shot clock (more than 50 percent) and is deadly on these. His worst time frame is with around 12 to 16 seconds left — where he has still made 42 percent. Then, he somehow shoots better and better as the clock runs down! In addition to being another example of how the traditional ideas of “good” and “bad” shots don’t really apply to Curry, this also has the very practical implication that Curry’s teammates should be willing to pass up reasonably good shots even if it means Curry will have less time to set up his own."

That's why I find it funny when some of these clowns talk about you just have to crowd him or be physical with him. This dude takes HORRIBLE shots with a defender right on him sometimes with a hand up in his face. And with his dribbling ability and the fact that he's probably the best small finisher at the rim he'll kill you inside as well.

I give Zach Lowe credit. Back years ago during that San Antonio series with some of the shots Curry was hitting he was saying that if Curry is giving the green light to shoot the shots he started taking during that series that the Warriors would break the game essentially as no one had ever seen anything like it. That article stuck in my mind as Curry started getting better and better and rings so true.

 

[Gyasi85]

Or can you just hope to contain him? I just can't see how he can be shut down. That nikka doesn't even have to see the rim before shooting.

 

[duncanthetall]

That's why I find it funny when some of these clowns talk about you just have to crowd him or be physical with him. This dude takes HORRIBLE shots with a defender right on him sometimes with a hand up in his face. And with his dribbling ability and the fact that he's probably the best small finisher at the rim he'll kill you inside as well.

I give Zach Lowe credit. Back years ago during that San Antonio series with some of the shots Curry was hitting he was saying that if Curry is giving the green light to shoot the shots he started taking during that series that the Warriors would break the game essentially as no one had ever seen anything like it. That article stuck in my mind as Curry started getting better and better and rings so true.

Would love to see said articlr

 

[tmonster]

Yeah, a zone won't work against them, at this point I think the best bet is not to double him at all and just live with him scoring what he's going to score while defending everyone else.

He's the only player on their team that requires a double, don't send one and just live with it. Him getting 34 pts with 5 assists isn't nearly as damaging as those games where he has 28 and 12 Those 12 assists don't tell the full story of all the ball movement going on either.

Sounds nice and all but since the all-star game, Clay seems to have turned on his turbo button; not to mention that their bench will smoke your bench. They're a legit problem breh. We are well passed the halfway mark of the season and no team has figured them out. The only team that seems able to beat them is the Golden State Warriors

 

[DoubleClutch]

Better question is, "can the Warriors be stopped?"

 

[Illuminatos]

No

 

[Reid2Achieve]

Once Kerr or whomever told him they are unstoppable when he is always looking to score like his Davidson days - and he got his conditioning and strength up to do it every night - his career just took off. He just puts so much pressure on defenses (and offenses to keep up).

Imagine if Steve Nash looked for his shot more...The Suns would have won at least one championship.

 

[unit321]

Or can you just hope to contain him? I just can't see how he can be shut down. That nikka doesn't even have to see the rim before shooting.

Well, he's a smaller guy and always had to overcome shooting over tall guys. He has to set up his shot fast. Now that he's practiced a variety of outside shots thousands of times, he's not stoppable unless you put a short guy to guard him.
But you could put a small fast guy to guard him tightly.This way, he would be forced to pass or go around you which puts him in a position to do a lay up over a tall guy. He would probably find a pass to Klay Thompson and you are back to square one.

 

[scarhead]

Dude is a genetic freak tbh.
It's super rare to have that kinda coordination, precise muscle memory, and agility.
On top of that dude can deadlift 400lbs as well.
Just a pure killer in compact form.

 

[bnm8907]

Well, he's a smaller guy and always had to overcome shooting over tall guys. He has to set up his shot fast. Now that he's practiced a variety of outside shots thousands of times, he's not stoppable unless you put a short guy to guard him.
But you could put a small fast guy to guard him tightly.This way, he would be forced to pass or go around you which puts him in a position to do a lay up over a tall guy. He would probably find a pass to Klay Thompson and you are back to square one.

But the problem is the screens. It don't matter if you bring prime gary payton back if he is getting screen and curry is pulling from 35 ft.

 

[MF budz]

The only way I see it is if you give him a hard foul and hope he fukks something on his body up. But then you have to worry about Thompson killin you and everyone else so maybe just start a brawl and give everyone concussions and armbars till they snap But for real the only thing that can stop him is if he starts having ankle issues again.