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Wait, so it's the NBAs fault you guys traded for Nash? :pachaha:
Breh you don't know what a domino effect is :why:? Aren't you in college:heh:? Lakers definitely made poor moves for sure but had the cp3 trade not been vetoed they wouldn't have been in the position to make some of those god forsaken moves. Is it that hard to understand :dead:?
 

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Same nikkas that were right there with Gilbert after the Decision were/are the same nikkas crying about the veto which was heavily influenced by him and his crying. Ironically enough, he's paying out the ass now, setting luxury tax records due to changes that he spearheaded.

That said, I don't know why folks have been clinging to that shyt for 5 years like CP3 was gonna be the difference between the shyt show we've seen and winning chips. If anything, it just would've just put them on the treadmill.

Also the shyt was smoke and mirrors cause the league still sent CP3 to a large market....LA. The whole thing was a hustle to make it seem as though they werent favoring the large market teams. Like the damn clips weren't a large market team.....them and tbe lakers play in the same got damn stadium.
 

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How many established superstars under 30 were traded in a deal not including another superstar, a recent lottery pick, or a lottery pick? As Hornets owner, what would be your rationale to accept such a trade?
 

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I still think the "veto" had everything to do with NO. That trade would have cost them Anthony Davis and would have made the team unsellable.

Kobe was already :flabbynsick, Chris Paul would have been a weird fit with him, and Dwight isn't exactly loved by Laker fans.

:pacspit:Kobe was still elite before the injury. Plus Kobe unlike some of these other nikkas, can play without the ball.

6th & 7th ring was a lock. fukk Stern
 

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Also the shyt was smoke and mirrors cause the league still sent CP3 to a large market....LA. The whole thing was a hustle to make it seem as though they were favoring the large market teams. Like the damn clips weren't a large market team.....them and tbe lakers play in the same got damn stadium.

Timing was an issue was well. If they make this move in July or during the season it probably goes through with no problem. But to do so right after you kissed the small markets on the forehead and told them it was gonna be okay and ya'll would play nice in order to get the lockout settled was just a bad look and even Jeannie acknowledged this.
 

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How many established superstars under 30 were traded in a deal not including another superstar, a recent lottery pick, or a lottery pick? As Hornets owner, what would be your rationale to accept such a trade?
You obviously don't know the pieces moved in either of the Lakers or clippers trades:francis:
Here's the package the NBA rejected from the Lakers, which would have been a three-team trade with the Rockets:

  • Hornets get: Goran Dragic, Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, and New York's 2012 1st-round pick (which became Royce White)
  • Lakers get: Chris Paul
  • Rockets get: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom

Stern ultimately accepted this deal from the Clippers:

  • Hornets get: Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu, and Minnesota's 2012 1st-round pick (which became Austin Rivers)
  • Clippers get: Chris Paul, two 2nd-round picks

The 2011 Chris Paul Trade Veto Was A Disastrous Move By The NBA
 

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You obviously don't know the pieces moved in either of the Lakers or clippers trades:francis:
Here's the package the NBA rejected from the Lakers, which would have been a three-team trade with the Rockets:

  • Hornets get: Goran Dragic, Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, and New York's 2012 1st-round pick (which became Royce White)
  • Lakers get: Chris Paul
  • Rockets get: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom

Stern ultimately accepted this deal from the Clippers:

  • Hornets get: Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu, and Minnesota's 2012 1st-round pick (which became Austin Rivers)
  • Clippers get: Chris Paul, two 2nd-round picks

The 2011 Chris Paul Trade Veto Was A Disastrous Move By The NBA

......thanks for proving my point?
 

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The owners were fitting the bill for the hornets. They blocked the trade because they would have had to give the Lakers Chris Paul and 21 million dollars.

If you think the owners were going to go out of their way to help the Lakers stay competitive you're a delusional Lakers fan
 

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......thanks for proving my point?
Uh did you see the trade the league accepted...? The pick in the lakers trade was only 6 slots lower and the hornets would've received better players... Does that make the trade the league accepted a better trade? At the end of the day we see how it panned out and the original trade was clearly better. Demps made the right move then the league swooped in
 

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The owners were fitting the bill for the hornets. They blocked the trade because they would have had to give the Lakers Chris Paul and 21 million dollars.

If you think the owners were going to go out of their way to help the Lakers stay competitive you're a delusional Lakers fan
At least you can admit that is was about the lakers. nikkas in here are saying it has nothing to do with the point you just made and that's what's bothering me
 

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Imagine Westbrook being dealt today for Amir Johnson, Crowder and Bradley. No Jaylen Brown, no Nets pick, no Lil Zeke. OKC ownership swats that shyt, right? Of course, so why ask why the league swatted the Paul deal?
 

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Imagine Westbrook being dealt today for Amir Johnson, Crowder and Bradley. No Jaylen Brown, no Nets pick, no Lil Zeke. OKC ownership swats that shyt, right? Of course, so why ask why the league swatted the Paul deal?
Then imagine the league accepting Westbrook being dealt for Amir Johnson, Bradley, James young, and 2 second round picks :francis:. If the league went out and got a deal that looked significantly better you'd have a point but they didn't :francis:. And now being 5 years removed we've seen what the pieces have become and the first trade was better
 

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At least you can admit that is was about the lakers. nikkas in here are saying it has nothing to do with the point you just made and that's what's bothering me

It was but that's because of who they were at the time. Owners aren't going to to help any competitive team stay competitive and have to come out of pocket too. No one would stop that trade right now with the Lakers being trash.
 

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Then imagine the league accepting Westbrook being dealt for Amir Johnson, Bradley, James young, and 2 second round picks :francis:. If the league went out and got a deal that looked significantly better you'd have a point but they didn't :francis:. And now being 5 years removed we've seen what the pieces have become and the first trade was better

Avery Bradley & James young are recent top 10 picks? Not Marcus Smart & Jaylen Brown? News to me! At the time, Eric Gordon was 23 and Al Aminu was 21 and both were recent top 10 draft picks. Minnesota pick was an additional lottery pick providing extra ping pong balls.

Given the hornets best player was David West (around age 30), how the hell would a 31 year old Scola (same position) and a 29 year old Martin constitute a better deal? Especially without an additional lottery pick?
 
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