Beat makers I’m so garbage but I don’t want to quit

Rozay Oro

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nikka its 2:00am. Deadline passed. Mods delete this shyt. Unless posters in here wanna give infinite advice this nikka not gonna use.

This is some advice to anyone reading this that is actually serious about trying to make beats. If you don’t actually have a passion for this, just quit now because it’s a process to get to where you comfortable and can easily make beats. Some get there quicker than others, but it’s a beginning phase of being frustrated with the technical side, having to look up or figure out how to do simple shyt. Then your beats not gonna sound like how you want them to in the beginning. Even when you think they good, they probably gonna be trash. You only gonna push through all that shyt if you actually love sitting down making music. If not, sell your equipment and give up.
Chill nikka. Chopping samples and arranging is so much harder than playing to a certain scale. I’ll continue tmrw after work.
 

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I write music for content libraries...AMA...

Sounds like you got writer's block. Steps:
1) Pick a genre
2) Emulate a production style
3) Use basic music theory to construct a song.

Can you play an instrument or have an understanding of music theory?

Sorry my nikkas but damn I ain’t done but I’m hearing more to sample and I have played this song too many times over. I will finish this mf soon

@NinoBrown The fact that breh is making sampled base music makes it even more important he understands theory. He's constructing his beat around a sample that already dictates what he can do, but I'm guessing Dude fiddles around with every key on his MIDI controller just guessing what sounds right. Once he understands that his sample has a key and a scale-- @Rozay Oro , a scale being a specific set of just up to 7 notes/chords that the beat is built around, with all others being "off key" and excluded--he is gonna "get it," never "struggle" with making a beat again, and lose his shyt at how fun playing music, constructing music, and improvising over his beat coming up with something catchy and jamming out really is.

The first time he learns how to simplify his beat making down to theory and comes up with something geniunely catchy that he created and impresses others, his confidence and skills will soar. It'll give him so much room to then study mixing, mastering, rhythmic techniques and other things. The first time I discovered African polyrhythmic theory (pretty much the foundation of ALL black music)--or "the one" as James Brown liked to call it--it blew me away. Instant technique to making catchy, fun, exciting tunes all your own.

OP sounds like he's still stuck at that stage where he has an idea, he knows how it sounds in his head, but once he stares at the blank canvas and all 88 keys on his MIDI controller he's lost, guessing which notes to play one by one and doesn't understand why it's taking hours and ultimately sound "empty" and not like what he imagined at all. I hope bro knows I'm genuinely trying to get him to that next level of confidence in his ability to conceive and construct his own music.
 
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shid learn about keys. start with the easy ones with the least amount of flats or sharps.

Do this when you hit a plateau: wikipedia a key/scale, make beats only using those notes in the scale for a min, pay attention to the notes you're using to memorize it. Then when you get bored, go to the next key. Thats how I learned scales when I was self teaching. Then you can switch between keys when you want once you know your notes

Also for inspiration, listen to anything and everything. Do it as much as you can all day.. you gotta be swimming in music to create good shyt. You'll have melodies and rhythms in your head all day

Bonus: learn time new time signatures. 4/4 is great, but when you learn how to utilize different ones or switch back and forth its crazy.

This beat is in
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Listen to this breh OP. This is what the hobby is really about.

I would just say OP doesn't even necessarily need to practice every scale or worry about flats and sharps since he's just cooking on software and not playing live. I'd give him time before he explores complex time signatures as well. Just needs to know the concept behind music theory. Breaking down his ideas to it's specific key and scale as well as the concept of arranging lead, rhythm, bass, and percussion to "fill out" the frequency range of his beats. He'll be cooking a beat a day from there until he's the next George Clinton.
 

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@NinoBrown @The Velvet Soul i got to work soon but yeah right now I just want to make hip hop beats by chopping samples.

I have an R&B song from 1981. I’m just trying to figure out how to go with this. I know the biggest thing is focus on bar loops, “moans and groans” like 9th wonder says, melodies whether it’s some instrumental or even with singing. I know to filter out high and lows if too much shyt going on. Definitely struggling to get out what’s in my head.

I only know the C major scale. Would be dope to compose in the future but I think this is a good place to start since I’m not that good at piano.
 

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@NinoBrown @The Velvet Soul i got to work soon but yeah right now I just want to make hip hop beats by chopping samples.

I have an R&B song from 1981. I’m just trying to figure out how to go with this. I know the biggest thing is focus on bar loops, “moans and groans” like 9th wonder says, melodies whether it’s some instrumental or even with singing. I know to filter out high and lows if too much shyt going on. Definitely struggling to get out what’s in my head.

I only know the C major scale. Would be dope to compose in the future but I think this is a good place to start since I’m not that good at piano.

If you're producing music in a DAW and not playing live you really don't need to be a piano maestro with working knowledge of every scale. You hardly even need to memorize the keyboard itself. Most DAWS and sequencer have chord and scale "modes" that allows you to just select the key and desired scale of the song (everything from major to minor to even foreign scales) and then filters out all other notes so that ANYTHING you're now playing is in key.

Can I hear this track you want to sample? I can guide you on how to find the songs key and it's note scale.
 

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If you're producing music in a DAW and not playing live you really don't need to be a piano maestro with working knowledge of every scale. You hardly even need to memorize the keyboard itself. Most DAWS and sequencer have chord and scale "modes" that allows you to just select the key and desired scale of the song (everything from major to minor to even foreign scales) and then filters out all other notes so that ANYTHING you're now playing is in key.

Can I hear this track you want to sample? I can guide you on how to find the songs key and it's note scale.

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@NinoBrown @The Velvet Soul i got to work soon but yeah right now I just want to make hip hop beats by chopping samples.

I have an R&B song from 1981. I’m just trying to figure out how to go with this. I know the biggest thing is focus on bar loops, “moans and groans” like 9th wonder says, melodies whether it’s some instrumental or even with singing. I know to filter out high and lows if too much shyt going on. Definitely struggling to get out what’s in my head.

I only know the C major scale. Would be dope to compose in the future but I think this is a good place to start since I’m not that good at piano.
again go study music theory, just the basics help.

If you make all your music in c major that's fine you can always transpose them up or down the scale all the major and minor scales are relative it's when you go into non western music thats the scale becomes advanced

here's 2 beats i made no samples, made this shyt from the ground up. but if you want to sample the key is to find the bpm, time signature, and music scale. that takes practice

Yasuke - this one i used a japanese scale, got the instruments from a kontakt bank, and made a crazy drill track

Red Lipstick Joint - simple little afro rnb join i did in d# minor
 

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again go study music theory, just the basics help.

If you make all your music in c major that's fine you can always transpose them up or down the scale all the major and minor scales are relative it's when you go into non western music thats the scale becomes advanced

here's 2 beats i made no samples, made this shyt from the ground up. but if you want to sample the key is to find the bpm, time signature, and music scale. that takes practice

Yasuke - this one i used a japanese scale, got the instruments from a kontakt bank, and made a crazy drill track

Red Lipstick Joint - simple little afro rnb join i did in d# minor
Damn that’s dope af. Afro beats joint hard!
 
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