Being Black and Being Gay: The Difference

[The 2020 New Member]

And the white ones? Nowhere to be found. So once again race>> everything else.

not necessarily but i respect that move, sir. i just refuse to give me race that much power. i'm not naive but my optimism is all my own, apparently.

let's say that you're correct, though:

black people will never get ahead the way we deserve to, because there can never be solidarity in our community. we can't get way from calling each other nikkas, fakkits, and bytches long enough to work together.

 

[Wildin]

Who is they that your referring to? We can find a reason to march or vigil every single day. Trayvon got national attention. People in different cities stood together for remembrance and to enact change, hell there were rallies overseas just like matthew shepard. Not too much changed then in that case and now in this case except awareness

And how many well known gay figures stuck up for Trayvon Martin, Sean Bell, or many of the other injustices that occurred among black people? Next to none. So apparently when black people are being oppressed and facing injustice, they don't care.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Here you go again caping for some people who don't give a fukk about you and have no problem being racist towards you.

what is wrong with you dude?

I support equality for all people, regardless of background.

 

[BocaRear]

oh so you're actually worried about what 'they' think? you just don't want to be lumped into a category that includes sissies . admit that. that's ok! neither does any self actualized homosexual citizen with any sense. i'm not entirely sure of your stance on the situation because the simple fact that 'they' actually view we black men as less than a white homo. @Elle Driver made an excellent point before about the difference between white gays and black gays.

I've got nothing against homosexuals, I however ,and most people, view it as unnatural and not normal.

When a white person tells me that I should support homosexuality fully because I am black I feel as though they are trying to say being black is abnormal and unnatural and that I have less of a right to be against it because they are ALLOWING blacks to have equal rights.

gay people can do their thing and get married because it's none of my business and I don't buy into that gays are sissys shyt

 

[mrken12]

what is wrong with you dude?

I support equality for all people, regardless of background.

I respect that but at the same time when it comes to black people others won't reciprocate our fight for equality. With that in mind, that's why I'm indifferent to the struggles that (white) gay people deal with. For black gay people, I empathize with them because they're black before anything else.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

I've got nothing against homosexuals, I however ,and most people, view it as unnatural and not normal.

When a white person tells me that I should support homosexuality fully because I am black I feel as though they are trying to say being black is abnormal and unnatural and that I have less of a right to be against it because they are ALLOWING blacks to have equal rights.

gay people can do their thing and get married because it's none of my business and I don't buy into that gays are sissys shyt

i'm honestly sorry that someone would put you in a position to feel that way. i'm sure you can empathize with me when i express how much it sucks to be excluded from the black community while dealing with black issues and gay issues at the same time. or maybe you can't.

why are you taking 'white people' so seriously?

 

[Carter G. Hoodson]

As of late, there's been a concerted effort on the part of certain individuals to compare the discrimination against black people to the discrimination against gay people. If a black person speaks negatively of the homosexual agenda, they are derided for supporting the same system of oppression that persecuted them. They say it's all a matter of civil rights and black people, more than anyone given their history, should support "gay rights".

But there are marked differences between discrimination against blacks and discrimination against homosexuals. It seems so obvious when you think about it. First, a homosexual can conceal their preference and avoid discrimination. It is not like black skin that is obvious to all onlookers. Hence why it would be difficult to create discriminatory laws that targeted all gay people, as any lawbreaking would be defined by what they DO and not what they ARE.

Second, there is no consensus on what causes homosexuality. Some say you are born with those tendencies, others that it's a result of your experiences. I'm not saying people necessarily have a choice in regards to their preference, I'm saying that compulsions, like any other, can be curbed and controlled. The counterargument is that it's not worth sacrificing personal happiness to be something you're not, which I understand, but it diminishes the argument to one of personal satisfaction. On the contrary, black people are black whether they like it or not.

Third, racists and "homophobes" are not comparable. There are plenty of people opposed to homosexuality on the basis that they consider gay sex to be immoral and unnatural. Whether that belief has any valid basis or not, they do not hate the person for their desires or who they are, rather they are repulsed by what they do. A racist hates or discriminates individuals for who they are period.

If you think it's wrong or ignorant to condemn homosexuality, fine. But don't compare discrimination against blacks to discrimination against homosexuals. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Summed it up right there...

 

[Grifter]

one gets fukked over by the man, the other fukks men

 

[BocaRear]

i'm honestly sorry that someone would put you in a position to feel that way. i'm sure you can empathize with me when i express how much it sucks to be excluding from the black community while dealing with black issues and gay issues at the same time. or maybe you can't.

why are you taking 'white people' so seriously?

Like mrken guy said, if you are black and gay I support you because you're black and we gotta stay together. I certainly empathize with you breh, and in an ideal world people would be more tolerant and compassionate. Hopefully you'll meet some black people in your life that are more accepting of you.

And the reason why I take white people seriously is because their passive-aggressiveness and sly remarks show me that underneath all this equality talk nothing has really changed.

 

[Wildin]

I respect that but at the same time when it comes to black people others won't reciprocate our fight for equality. With that in mind, that's why I'm indifferent to the struggles that (white) gay people deal with. For black gay people, I empathize with them because they're black before anything else.

So your reciprocating what you believe is the issue (people only care about some but not all so you do the same) and this won't make any changes so your wasting time and depending how much it affects you emotions and mental energy.

It's like this if Brad is walking down the street and a cop says "what are you doing in this neighborhood, open up your bookbag." and shoots brad and he dies you won't give a shyt.

But if Marcus is walking down the street and a cop says "what are you doing in this neighborhood, open your bookbag." and shoots Marcus and he dies you want to protest and change shyt.

It doesn't matter who it is or what type of person they are you can't advocate for a single circumstance, topic, issue and expect it's to resolve the total problem.--using the example above you have to be against police brutality in its entirety so it never happens not just when it happens to brad or marcus.( All this pitty pat one step at a time shyt. "Ok now it's ok for white guys, now it's OK for black guys, now it's OK for woman, now it's OK for Mexicans, now it's OK for asians" is a slow and terrible process and unfortunately it's how America operates.)

That's just wiping up the water from a leaky pipe rather than fixing the pipe. People don't care about or aren't concerned shyt until it happens to them.

 

[iBrowse]

As of late, there's been a concerted effort on the part of certain individuals to compare the discrimination against black people to the discrimination against gay people. If a black person speaks negatively of the homosexual agenda, they are derided for supporting the same system of oppression that persecuted them. They say it's all a matter of civil rights and black people, more than anyone given their history, should support "gay rights".

But there are marked differences between discrimination against blacks and discrimination against homosexuals. It seems so obvious when you think about it. First, a homosexual can conceal their preference and avoid discrimination. It is not like black skin that is obvious to all onlookers. Hence why it would be difficult to create discriminatory laws that targeted all gay people, as any lawbreaking would be defined by what they DO and not what they ARE.

Second, there is no consensus on what causes homosexuality. Some say you are born with those tendencies, others that it's a result of your experiences. I'm not saying people necessarily have a choice in regards to their preference, I'm saying that compulsions, like any other, can be curbed and controlled. The counterargument is that it's not worth sacrificing personal happiness to be something you're not, which I understand, but it diminishes the argument to one of personal satisfaction. On the contrary, black people are black whether they like it or not.

Third, racists and "homophobes" are not comparable. There are plenty of people opposed to homosexuality on the basis that they consider gay sex to be immoral and unnatural. Whether that belief has any valid basis or not, they do not hate the person for their desires or who they are, rather they are repulsed by what they do. A racist hates or discriminates individuals for who they are period.

If you think it's wrong or ignorant to condemn homosexuality, fine. But don't compare discrimination against blacks to discrimination against homosexuals. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Being black is an inalienable characteristic...I don't like how the media has been trying to marginalize black-related civil rights violations with homosexuality....excellent top shelf post sir.

 

[infamousred]

yeah someone trying to compare the gay and black thing makes me sick. glaad was really pushing to get blacks to side with them on that whole duck dynasty issue. gays don't really bother me...it's just when they try to act like their way of life is better. gay dudes will catch the die slow before i ever do. it also confuses me how they act so much like women but then when you call them out on they get offended?

 

[ChatGPT-5]

It is much, much, much worse to be gay than black. By miles and miles, no contest. Thank sweet baby jesus I am black and not gay.

No offense to gay people of course, I'm just saying thank god I don't have to endure the hardship.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

yeah someone trying to compare the gay and black thing makes me sick. glaad was really pushing to get blacks to side with them on that whole duck dynasty issue. gays don't really bother me...it's just when they try to act like their way of life is better. gay dudes will catch the die slow before i ever do. it also confuses me how they act so much like women but then when you call them out on they get offended?

not equating the struggle but this is yet another time where you cannot be surprised that people do. not saying it's right but gay people are judged based on anextreme image that a few people put out there. gay men do not, for the most part, act like women. you are making a statement that is essentially synomous with 'i don't see how blacks can act like such thugs with their pants sagging and loud music, but i'm a racist if i say something to them about it'.