Bernie and his army are losing 2018

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The same evidence you use against Establishment democrats is equally applies to Bernie Wing Progressives:
1.)Lack of representation
2.)Losing elections
3.)Not reading the tea leaves to address 1 and 2
Uh no it doesn't. They haven't been at it as long as the Establishment. Bernie took his platform national/mainstream in 2016. The Establishment been running the Republican light agenda since Bill Clinton was president.
 

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Uh no it doesn't. They haven't been at it as long as the Establishment. Bernie took his platform national/mainstream in 2016. The Establishment been running the Republican light agenda since Bill Clinton was president.
How many decades would you like before a platform becomes electable anchored on an already popular idea such as UHC (or even longer healthcare reform).

It took Trump less than a year with Build a Wall. :sas1:
 

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How many decades would you like before a platform becomes electable anchored on an already popular idea such as UHC (or even longer healthcare reform).

It took Trump less than a year with Build a Wall. :sas1:
How about 20-25 years?
And Trump built a wall? Or are you just making shyt up? :sas2:
 

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Wait, so we should be outraged by current democrats and also be willing to wait 20-25 years for a progression solution?

Bernie will be 100 by then. :damn:
Bernie produced the blueprint but there are more players on the field now. Rashida, Alexandria coming for that neck. Don't be scared.:mjgrin:
We ain't never gonna stop! :takedat:
 

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Yup in 2 years progressives with no money were supposed to sweep 2018 :hhh:

If we go back even since the last mid-terms, the difference between then and now is staggering. Obviously the idiot in orange playing golf is a huge catalyst but Bernie's stunning run in the primary along with the policies after the Great Recession that didn't fix the system and instead inflated the pockets of the top are why the progressive movement is getting steam.

As long as people keep continuing to get out after it and not resting even when Dems control all 3 branches again, some even bigger shyt can get done to better people's lives.

It's about time for a major shift in America... the Reagan paradigm that we've lived under since 1981 has to run its course. The Chicago School Libertarian view of anti-trust is collapsing before us... very soon most of the Congress is going to be for breaking shid up.
 

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Super delegates - Did not sway the election. She won off the back of the vote.

You can't even say they didn't have an effect when that was the entire point of having them. All over the media, it had the effect of telling voters "look it's already done. Look at that lead."

Media Coverage - Bernie received media coverage in line with where he was polling and that has been the standard for a long time

So we're gonna ignore the Washington Post going all out against him. The examples are everywhere. We're gonna act like his rallies or speeches weren't completely ignored in favor of empty podiums.

Primary Systems - States have the right to determine how they vote for candidates and for president.

Not arguing that but people feeling shut out by the process due to ridiculous rules is why people felt that way.


Please explain how any of these placed Bernie at a Disadvantage over the other candidates who also operated within this system.

Note: Bernie Sanders has been in been in national politics since 1972. This disadvantaged political newcomer argument is bullshyt. Try again.

I was talking about those who ran in these primaries. I could elaborate on Bernie but why when you completely saw 2016 a whole different way. All structural advantages and obvious conditions favoring her internally will fall on deaf ears and its 2018.

A good number of these candidates were running against folks who were already known and had support from a bunch of folks already entrenched in the party and known by a bunch of people. From not doing anything to expected to sweep. Foh.


Let's not forget:
Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday | HuffPost

:troll:
Good job you found an article.
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1.) What tangible affect did they have. You made the claim. Can you provide data to support it?
2.) The Washington Post has the right to go against a candidate. Freedom of the press. Is there any evidence they were paid off? If not, this is a non issue.
3.)What ridiculous rule kept people shut out? In the vast majority of states primaries only require registering to vote (picking a party if they aren't open) and show up to vote. What did I miss? Need more details.
4.)The same systems were in place when a newcomer in Obama beat Hillary. :obama:
 

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1.) What tangible affect did they have. You made the claim. Can you provide data to support it?
2.) The Washington Post has the right to go against a candidate. Freedom of the press. Is there any evidence they were paid off? If not, this is a non issue.
3.)What ridiculous rule kept people shut out? In the vast majority of states primaries only require registering to vote (picking a party if they aren't open) and show up to vote. What did I miss? Need more details.
4.)The same systems were in place when a newcomer in Obama beat Hillary. :obama:
I know in NY you can't vote in the Democratic Primary if you're not a Democrat and to register as one you have to do so over a year before an election. :scust:
 
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