Bernie Stans....do ya'll seriously think he'll win the general?

[GzUp]

No one who voted for Obama will not vote for Hillary vs a republican, however a lot of people will not vote for Bernie. Dude is too, he'll probably die before a term served and will most likely be too inefficient in high politics. People forget that at the end of the day we need semi-shady people to get shyt done, theoretically amazing candidate but I have a hard time seeing him getting shyt done. Voting for Bernie is stupid, the republicans will shut down the government before dealing with him. I think a lot of voters will be afraid of that, specially people that follow Washington.

Basically.

 

[Harry B]

I live in SC and all I see are Trump and Bernie signs.

That should tell you something.

Stans are always the loudest, just like I saw a bunch of Ron Paul signs a few years ago, he was receiving 20-40 % early on what happened when shyt got real? Like 9 %.

I even remember when they were saying that Ron Paul could beat Obama

 

[Gusto]

Effective?

What's he accomplished?

Pass more amendments to his name than any other member of congress. That's all.

 

[superunknown23]

Sanders won't get the same black turnout that Obama got (duh!)
It puts states that Obama barely won thanks to high black turnout in SERIOUS jeopardy: Ohio, Virginia, Florida (Obama won each by less than 2 points in 2012). Do you really think that someone clearly to the left of Obama would be competitive in those places? That's 60 EC votes right there.
Obama also won North Carolina in 2008 and barely lost it in 2012... Sanders would get trounced there. Also, Pennsylvania and Iowa suddenly wouldn't look so safe.
Sanders' strength is only in deep blue states that will go democratic no matter who gets the nomination.
He doesn't maintain or expand the Obama electoral map, he shrinks it

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Voting for Bernie is stupid, the republicans will shut down the government before dealing with him.

BERNIE ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF OLD FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE WHO RESPECT HIM, WHEREAS THE YOUNGER SENATOR OBAMA SIMPLY DID NOT, BROTHER!

 

[ill]

BERNIE ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF OLD FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE WHO RESPECT HIM, WHEREAS THE YOUNGER SENATOR OBAMA SIMPLY DID NOT, BROTHER!

I would say Obama had more bipartisan appeal going into his first election than Bernie has now.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I would say Obama had more bipartisan appeal going into his first election than Bernie has now.

AMONG MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, BROTHER? I THINK OBAMA'S DISADVANTAGE THERE WAS THAT HE WAS JUST TOO YOUNG TO HAVE SOLID CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER SENATORS, DUDE!

 

[superunknown23]

AMONG MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, BROTHER? I THINK OBAMA'S DISADVANTAGE THERE WAS THAT HE WAS JUST TOO YOUNG TO HAVE SOLID CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER SENATORS, DUDE!

Who cares about members of congress? Those endorsements are meaningless.
His appeal is strictly restricted in deep blue states that always go democratic anyway... But hoping for OH, VA, FL, PA, IA, NV to vote for a self-described socialist is whole other story.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Who cares about members of congress?

PRESIDENTS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET CONGRESS TO COOPERATE WITH THEM, BROTHER! THIS IDEA THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL REFUSE TO WORK WITH BERNIE ISN'T SUPPORTED BY HIS HISTORY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE, DUDE!

 

[superunknown23]

PRESIDENTS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET CONGRESS TO COOPERATE WITH THEM, BROTHER! THIS IDEA THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL REFUSE TO WORK WITH BERNIE ISN'T SUPPORTED BY HIS HISTORY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE, DUDE!

I meant that endorsements by congressional members don't mean shyt in trying to get elected president.

 

[JahFocus CS]

So a Republican-led Congress will be more hostile to Sanders than to the Third Worldist, Marxist, Muslim, Kenyan Barack Obama?

I don't see it being any worse than the past 8 years.

 

[Swagnificent]

Sanders won't get the same black turnout that Obama got (duh!)
It puts states that Obama barely won thanks to high black turnout in SERIOUS jeopardy: Ohio, Virginia, Florida (Obama won each by less than 2 points in 2012). Do you really think that someone clearly to the left of Obama would be competitive in those places? That's 60 EC votes right there.
Obama also won North Carolina in 2008 and barely lost it in 2012... Sanders would get trounced there. Also, Pennsylvania and Iowa suddenly wouldn't look so safe.
Sanders' strength is only in deep blue states that will go democratic no matter who gets the nomination.
He doesn't maintain or expand the Obama electoral map, he shrinks it

Couldn't the same be said for Hillary?

 

[Swagnificent]

So a Republican-led Congress will be more hostile to Sanders than to the Third Worldist, Marxist, Muslim, Kenyan Barack Obama?

I don't see it being any worse than the past 8 years.

Exactly.

People just need to vote for what they believe in.

I'm voting for Bernie because he best represents my values and beliefs and I believe he'll be best for the country.

 

[Swagnificent]

Who cares about members of congress? Those endorsements are meaningless.
His appeal is strictly restricted in deep blue states that always go democratic anyway... But hoping for OH, VA, FL, PA, IA, NV to vote for a self-described socialist is whole other story.

You have no evidence of that. He's currently beating Hillary in head to heads vs. the GOP. Primary because he does much better with independent voters.

I think you're giving too much attention to the socialist label. Republicans have been calling Obama a socialist for 8 years. It isn't a potent a charge as you think.

Hillary's dishonesty IMO is a bigger detriment than Bernie calling himself a socialist. She's hated by independents. She a bigger detriment in November than Bernie.

Bernie will excite young voters and win independents. Hillary will not excite anyone and lose independents.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I would say Obama had more bipartisan appeal going into his first election than Bernie has now.

Hell no