Besides C.R.E.A.M, what other megahits did Wu Tang Clan have as a group?

[Wacky D]

Cotdamn is it a crime to love both groups? Everything got to be on some stan war bullshyt

I do catch myself listening to Bone because the shyt they were kicking were like anthems to my teenage years. Ive been a fan of theres when I first heard Hell Sent on my older Cousin's tape deck. Group albums I'd probably give Bone the edge because Creepin and a Come Up, E.1999, Art of War were classics.. BTNH Ressurection and Thug World Order were solid as well. Wu Tang on the other hand started to degress within every group album. After Wu Forever, The W came(Which was solid) and then came Iron flag(Which was cheeks) then 8 Diagrams(Recycle Bin status). So Bone as a GROUP had much better albums than The Wu.

BUT SOLO ALBUMS. The Wu got this shyt by a landslide and any nikka that disagrees is a cotdamn hater.

Ghostface's Ironman, Supreme Clientele, Bulletproof Wallets, FishScale,
ODB's Return of the 36, nikka Please
RZA's Bobby Digital Album
GZA's Liquid Swords, The album with Muggs, Beneath The Surface(Solid offering)
Raekwon Cuban Linx 1, 2, along with the mixtapes he dropped leading up to OBFCL2
Meth's Tical album
INS Uncontrolled Substance(Very overlooked)
Cappadonna-The Pillage

Compared to
Krayzie's Thug Mentality(Great album), Good Vs Evil(Solid album)
Bizzy's Heavy Movie(Great album), Alpha Omega(Great Album), Muddy Waters(Solid)
Flesh N Bone T.H.U.G.(Great album)

The Bone Solo MEMBERS albums weren't as dope as the Wu jawns. Sales wise, critical wise, reception from the Streets, Even fan perception and all.

And this is coming from a diehard Bone Fan.

we're talking groups here tho.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Tical I never really rocked with. And the knock on Meth is that he's this super talented guy who never was able to translate the talent into an album.
Maybe the consensus is swinging in favor of Ironman? I always thought people preferred SC. Personally I think Ironman is a masterpiece (but this ain't about my opinion).
Lol at L'S being a cult classic. Nothing the Wu did from 93-97 was cult status. They were at the forefront of NYC hip hop. And that album was considered a masterpiece from jump. The apex of that grimy Wu vibe. Wasnt GZA the first to do a concert just performing a single album inits entirety? the album is still classic status. But maybe you meant that some other way.

The Tical album is a nice dark, raw album from start to finish. It flows very well and there are a ton of great songs on it. I don't see how anyone who is a Wu Tang fan can say otherwise.

I'll go as far as saying Tical is the second best 'solo' to come out of the camp.

 

[daze23]

me and Mariah, go back like babies and pacifiers...

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

I told yall on page 1 this fakkit created this thread in an attempt to goad y'all into a thread about Bone Thugs sales. And to his credit...it worked. Dudes fell for his trolling.

Bone Thug stans intrigue me. They have some sort of inferiority complex that very few other rapper stans display. This cac, and most of the other Bone stans on the Coli, are jealous of Wu's Godlike status in hip hop. It doesn't matter if Bone sold 10x more records than Wu. That doesn't equate to them being better or having a greater legacy than the clan and it burns them. It fukking kills them. These nikkas wish their harmonizing heroes were held in such regal regards as the Clan. Ya'll dudes need to accept it and move on. Bone created some damn good music throughout their career. But they just aren't the Clan.

............your right though

 

[mobbinfms]

The Tical album is a nice dark, raw album from start to finish. It flows very well and there are a ton of great songs on it. I don't see how anyone who is a Wu Tang fan can say otherwise.

I'll go as far as saying Tical is the second best 'solo' to come out of the camp.

There was definitely some joints on that album. I'm not saying it was wack. But I can't rock with it being the second best solo. Overall it just goes to show the strength of the Wu legacy.

 

[mobbinfms]

we're talking groups here tho.

I'm not, I'm talking everything.

 

[Wacky D]

I'm not, I'm talking everything.

that's not what the thread is about tho.

how come wutang is the only group where people want to add solos?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Fred's right about typing out Bone lyrics. Bone are brilliantly talented. But you gotta here it not read it. And in a weird way, typing out Wu lyrics, though on paper they may seem more rappity rap, is also a detriment to the Wu experience.

the deliveries with both groups is where it's at. But Wu has and always will be better. just one of those truisms.

Typing out lyrics in general is silly in 2013 when you can just post the song. Reading lyrics always makes them look worse on paper.

Rhyme King should take notes

 

[ThaRealness]

21 pages?

 

[ThaRealness]

the only wu member who really had a hit was Meth with the All I Need remix

 

[mobbinfms]

the writers represented themselves.

only time it felt more community-ish was when benzino was allegedly running the magazine into the ground. go figure.



my bad. theres 2 huge bone/wu threads going on. I may have confused you with someone else along the way.

the source didn't hold weight like you claim. they were the most popular magazine by far. they held weight as far as magazines go, but that's basically where it ended. only the gullable types took their word for gold. if anything, I remember more people buying albums off the strength of their ratings and being disappointed.

So do you feel that the writers through the early to mid 90s weren't knowledgeable of the music? That they were suburban or not black and thus their opinions were irrelevant?
Of the first wave of fives through Aquemini - do you disagree with any of them? I feel that their was some regional bias, sometimes they just blew it (Smif N Wesson and Doggystyle), and they were to hesitant to give fives post 1991. But, I can see how that would be the best way to go about things, I can sympathize with how difficult it must be to have a record for a few weeks, have no idea what sort of impact it will have, and have to make the call about whether its a timeless classic or just a fantastic record. I think they should have only considered albums for five mic status after they had been out for at least a year, In other words, five mic ratings should only have been retroactive.

Also - can you give examples of albums that people relied on the rating from the source only to be disappointed?

 

[mobbinfms]

that's not what the thread is about tho.

how come wutang is the only group where people want to add solos?

Because they were a collective and spent their prime making solo albums.

 

[UpAndComing]

Ironically, Bone Thugs and Wu are the two biggest groups with the most amount of cac fans

 

[ZEB WALTON]

rza been since '98. and he just started moving away from hip-hop just a few years ago.

so how did he conquer the game and move on?

rza advanced sampling to such a level dude left it behind for wuforever. it was no longer a challenege to make those beats. he was WELL AHEAD of everyone in hip hop sides dre in his lil run. premo wasnt even premo yet when rza stopped making sample beats

and the point of me even saying that was rza has moved onto bigger and better things no matter how flabby mn sick hes been for 10 years... so wheres u-neek?

 

[the cac mamba]

The Tical album is a nice dark, raw album from start to finish. It flows very well and there are a ton of great songs on it. I don't see how anyone who is a Wu Tang fan can say otherwise.

I'll go as far as saying Tical is the second best 'solo' to come out of the camp.

in no way shape or form is it fukkin with supreme, liquid swords, or OB4CL

top 5 tho