Better artist: E-40 or Missy Elliott?

[YakSpiller]

Damn you mad brahhhhhhhh

I said it's arguable. I can see the argument either way, but lets be real here for a second.

Lil B actually started a movement unlike E-40. He had everybody cooking and wearing chef attire. He developed his own unique rapping style much like E-40 has. He was the first rapper to utilize the meme platform to rise to stardom and fame. People talked about Lil B in his prime way more than E-40 was ever mentioned. Lil B was actually heard of and well known outside of bay area. I'm talking lil B away from all that pack stuff. Lil B pretty much grandfathered the androgynous/homosexual wordplay, dress , and style that you see rappers like thugger and others capitalizing on. Think of how many people started using the word based and etc. You can feel and see the pretty bytch cultural influence. E-40 got him on album sales but Lil B occurred in a time that is based on youtube views vs album sales. The margin between basegod and E-40 is smaller than you think that's my point. You 40 stands don't want to accept this. Like seriously you bay area dudes is worse than NY'kers.

You gotta be 13 breh. Maybe 14.

You obviously wasn't around in the 90's and I guess you just start listening to rap in '09...

because you have no idea what your talking about.

You probably still using slang 40 made up in the 90's but B is more influential? get a fukking grip my dude, you sound delusional or just trolling because you're bored.

Kendrick fukking Lamar, Kanye West, Beyonce and many more have stated how they are fans of 40 and fukked with his style, If you can't see his influence in artist like Kendrick/T.I. and even B your just kidding yourself bud.

Stop with the he is/was only regional How did he make songs with 2pac, Cash Money, T.I., Big Sean, Clipse, Chris Brown etc...and only be known in one region stop it. He might not be top 5 but he's well known and respected by the artist y'all nikkas celebrate...Only young nikkas seem to not get that.

 

[YakSpiller]

Let's keep it funky, for as much as E-40 gets talked about on this site, he doesn't have a wildly successful album to his name nor does he have anything approaching a classic album. Missy gets a lot of hate on this forum for reasons, I can't really understand. If you're going to go bar for bar, then yes E-40 takes it, but Missy is a very solid rapper, who is technically proficient and can ride beats at multiple tempos, she's a good singer, she also co-produces and arranges her stuff. Her 1st two albums are not classics but were very good albums and her discography has been extremely consistent, she knows how to make a straight up hip-hop song, a soulful ballad, or a club jam. 20 years later in the game and she's still not only relevant but one of hip-hops bigger acts. She basically helped bridge the gap between Hip-hop and R and B, she kept female artists relevant without being overtly sexy and has more gold and platinum albums than most of her peers. So in short, E-40 is a better rapper and lyricist but Missy is a more complete artist.

Lies.

In a Major Way is a classic

Just because you're in a bubble (or young)doesn't mean everybody else is.

Breh I've had nikkas from NC, LA, NY tell me how the only Bay shyt they bumped was 40 and Short. My old manager from NC will tell you to this day how IAMW is one of the best '90s rap albums.

Missy is cool but she ain't like 40, and on the real no Timbo no Missy...quit giving her so much credit.

40 was poppin before y'all even knew who Missy was.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Lies.

In a Major Way is a classic

It might be classic to you and that's fine, but 99.9% of hip-hop fans have never heard that shyt.

 

[YakSpiller]

It might be classic to you and that's fine, but 99.9% of hip-hop fans have never heard that shyt.

You're a nerd breh, stop.

Like I said internet nerds don't matter, go beat ya dikk or something you wu-tang wear wearing, timb licking bytch.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You're a nerd breh, stop.

Like I said internet nerds don't matter, go beat ya dikk or something you wu-tang wear wearing, timb licking bytch.

Why does it make you angry when people point out to you that E-40 is completely irrelevant outside of Cali?

Dude is losing a poll to Missy fukking Elliott. What other supposed hip-hop legend would lose in a poll to Missy Elliott?

 

[YakSpiller]

Also I notice a lot of you white boys on here are the ones shytting on 40, that explains a lot.

I wouldn't expect a suburban Lil b liking, wu-tang following, young thug lover to like a nikka like 40.

You nerds don't matter anyway, 40 eats been eating and continues to eat.

 

[feelosofer]

Lies.

In a Major Way is a classic

Just because you're in a bubble (or young)doesn't mean everybody else is.

Breh I've had nikkas from NC, LA, NY tell me how the only Bay shyt they bumped was 40 and Short. My old manager from NC will tell you to this day how IAMW is one of the best '90s rap albums.

Missy is cool but she ain't like 40, and on the real no Timbo no Missy...quit giving her so much credit.

40 was poppin before y'all even knew who Missy was.

I'm not in a bubble or young homie, and I like E-40 but the man doesn't not have a classic album to his name doesn't mean he doesn't a quite a few very good ones nor am I saying he has no influence either, he's one of the first rappers to monetize himself in other ways successfully, the poll asked who the better ARTIST is and I made my case for Missy. Also you can't use the Timbo thing against missy since she has had quite a few hits without him producing at this point.

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

I guess what gets me, is the utter disregard for certain artists/albums with identical sales and fanbases to artists/albums that are cysed as classics elsewhere...like, I have 400 degreez as my avi.. I obviously hold it in high regard, think its a classic and all that..and a search of this board alone will show im not alone...but nikkas will straight up be like, "eh, its a regional classic"..im like, IT SOLD 4 MILL...meanwhile, Illmatic took a decade to go plat and its this landmark hip hop album?...never ever ever heard that joint played down here ever but..I aint gone shyt on a nikka for thinking its classic. There's receipts for its impact, at least on the East Coast and Nas is Nas..all im saying is, respect what other nikkas cyse if the impact come with receipts. We cant disregard what nikkas like E40, Three 6, Ball and G, UGk etc..did just cause they weren't cysed on one coast. Cause like I said, when we go there with nikkas from New York, the negs came out, nikkas all in they feelings despite the thread being full of receipts to the contrary

not sayin you, just in general

It ain't about regions

Or a city

Bias


Its about 1 man (e 40)

Being garbage in some ppls eyes outside the bay

And btw 400 degrees is a regional classic

Highly Doubt it had cross over appeal on the east or west

70% of albums that are called classics are regional

The other 30% have cross over appeal everywhere, like

The chronic
The blueprint
Doggy style
All eyez on me
Ready 2 die
Life after death
36 chambers
Death certificate


And of course there's others

But its a short list

And its short for a reason

 

[feelosofer]

It ain't about regions

Or a city

Bias


Its about 1 man (e 40)

Being garbage in some ppls eyes outside the bay

And btw 400 degrees is a regional classic

Highly Doubt it had cross over appeal on the east or west

70% of albums that are called classics are regional

The other 30% have cross over appeal everywhere, like

The chronic
The blueprint
Doggy style
All eyez on me
Ready 2 die
Life after death
36 chambers
Death certificate


And of course there's others

But its a short list

And its short for a reason

At least for 400 degreez, I could say, Juvi's style took some getting used to but people felt it out East too.

 

[YakSpiller]

Why does it make you angry when point out to you that E-40 is completely irrelevant outside of Cali?

Dude is losing a poll to Missy fukking Elliott. What other supposed hip-hop legend would lose in a poll to Missy Elliott?

Because I know you're a fukking lame who has never interacted with real nikka. Stay trying to be cute online, posting smileys trying to start arguments and shyt I told you to pull up if you want to keep quoting me my dude.

I hate you online nikkas who run and get to typing shyt like its facts. and when somebody says some real shyt you resort to smileys and trying to be funny and cute online. fukk all that I just told your corny ass I talk to nikkas from other states all the time, but you ignored that for the sake of trying to be funny and get some daps like the internet trolling lame you are.

I'll say it again nikkas like YOU don't matter. 40 eats even if its just us Bay nikkas. You East coast nikkas rather make fun and clown your artist, Then wonder why nikkas like Troy Ave will NEVER BE RELEVANT.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Because I know you're a fukking lame who has never interacted with real nikka. Stay trying to be cute online, posting smileys trying to start arguments and shyt I told you to pull up if you want to keep quoting me my dude.

I hate you online nikkas who run and get to typing shyt like its facts. and when somebody says some real shyt you resort to smileys and trying to be funny and cute online. fukk all that I just told your corny ass I talk to nikkas from other states all the time, but you ignored that for the sake of trying to be funny and get some daps like the internet trolling lame you are.

I'll say it again nikkas like YOU don't matter. 40 eats even if its just us Bay nikkas. You East coast nikkas rather make fun and clown your artist, Then wonder why nikkas like Troy Ave will NEVER BE RELEVANT.

This clown is furious. E-40 will always be irrelevant outside your neck of the woods, bruh. Deal with it or don't deal with it and keep being mad and in denial.

 

[YakSpiller]

I'm not in a bubble or young homie, and I like E-40 but the man doesn't not have a classic album to his name doesn't mean he doesn't a quite a few very good ones nor am I saying he has no influence either, he's one of the first rappers to monetize himself in other ways successfully, the poll asked who the better ARTIST is and I made my case for Missy. Also you can't use the Timbo thing against missy since she has had quite a few hits without him producing at this point.

Missy can be the better artist that's fair. ok, but some the shyt on here is just wild and disrespectful. And I respectfully disagree my dude IAMW is a underground classic maybe not mainstream but to say he doesn't have any "classics" is blatant disrespect.

 

[YakSpiller]

This clown is furious. E-40 will always be irrelevant outside your neck of the woods, bruh. Deal with it or don't deal with it and keep being mad and in denial.

Breh.

If you want to be funny and a clown go ahead.

Like I said you have nothing to say. you want to be a online funny guy, whatever.

he's irrelevant with a lot of money and fans...

and you're just nobody trying to stir the pot online...and hopefully get daps so you have something to look forward to.

How many records have you sold? who even knows you? how many shows you do? how much you making off rap?

He can be irrelevant but he has made a career even if you like it or not...He has a house next to Madden I think he's done ok for himself.

 

[mobbinfms]

It might be classic to you and that's fine, but 99.9% of hip-hop fans have never heard that shyt.

So we're just making up statistics now.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It ain't about regions

Or a city

Bias


Its about 1 man (e 40)

Being garbage in some ppls eyes outside the bay

And btw 400 degrees is a regional classic

Highly Doubt it had cross over appeal on the east or west

70% of albums that are called classics are regional

The other 30% have cross over appeal everywhere, like

The chronic
The blueprint
Doggy style
All eyez on me
Ready 2 die
Life after death
36 chambers
Death certificate


And of course there's others

But its a short list

And its short for a reason

What in god's green earth makes you think it's cool to put ANY form of regional status on a record that sold 4-5 million copies?