Biden will not include student loan forgiveness in annual budget

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I broke down the student loan debt crisis history awhile on here. Why do I know about it? Cause my mother and father both went to college in the 70s and took out loans. This was after the murder of MLK and the government started to really push to get minorities in colleges and many were given huge amounts of loans and grants (huge for those times).

What happened during those times a lot of students would go to college to get a easy loan refund check (like some today) or go to college to get out of being drafted in vietnam. Which a few of my dads homies did.

Anyway in the early 70s a lot of journalist and legislator started to comment that students were abusing the banckruptcy system by writing off their student loans in bankruptcy.

So a congressional commission on bankruptcy was formed to study if students were abusing the bankruptcy policy. Then congress did there own study.

Then by 1976 an educational amendment was made stating student loans could not be written off on bankruptcy until 5 years after commercement of the repayment period.

In 1984 a act stating that even private student loans could not be filed on bankruptcy until 5 years after the repayment period.

Then in 1990 they moved the bankruptcy on student loans to 7 years after repayment started.

Then in 1998 another high education amendment was passed saying they eliminated the 7 year period. Basically stating that all student loan could not be filed under bankruptcy.

Now understand that before 1976 student loans could easily be throw away due to bankruptcy. But once the law hit the books in 1976 it was extremely difficult to remove them. Even with the 5 and 7 year rules.

My dad had homies that tried for years (post 1976) to get their shyt removed without paying and could never get them removed.

So this whole notion that pre 1990 or pre biden it so easy to remove student loans is not true. The shyt been a bytch since 1976.

Long story short this one of the reasons my dad rode me about paying off my loans. I was high school age and my dad would be like man don't fukk around and not pay off them student loans. You don't want to be like my friend Mr. Sam who hiding from them government loans and got his income tax return taken or got his pay check taken by the government.

I would be like dang dad..:lupe: is that why Mr. Sam had to move from the place he was at and you were helping him move. Dad would be like yep that is why...:francis:

This is an insightful and well thought out post. All I’m saying i understand why the government did it. Student loans are unsecured debt taken on by 18 year olds with no credit history or earning history. If it wasn’t guaranteed to be paid back, no bank is doling out $20,000 to a college kid. Why would they? The deal worked for most people as you could find a good paying job after college. The problems didn’t start until companies stopped keeping their end of the bargain by decreasing hiring and pay, and colleges tried to extract more and more by raising tuition out of normal pace of inflation. Before that, it was an okay set up. All I’m saying is trying to retroactively apply 2021 attitudes about student loans to 1990 or even 2005 is dishonest to me because that was before the economy tanked.
 

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Loan Forgiveness only affects 1.5% of blacks
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Typical white man lol

Trust politicians, family! :mjlol::francis::hhh::pachaha::mjpls:

wheres the indian to cape for this

Hold ya own nuts.:manny:

Where them Coli nikkas at that was in that Biden student loan thread two weeks ago mentioning that student loans would be a priority in September? Turns out that shyt isn't going to be a priority at all :mjlol:

Biden hit us with the rope a dope.
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Cool. At this point, it’s obvious Democrats want fascists to regain power. If that’s what they want, plenty of us will willingly oblige them by staying home on election day.

:yeshrug:

I already stayed at home because nothing was on the table to specifically help black people.

If Biden presented some tangibles/money/help for black people I would have been in line Personally to vote for him. Same with any other future candidate.

Voting is an exchange to me...and these nikkas look goofy and sad for giving it up for nothing in return but new crime Bills against black folks.
 

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This is an insightful and well thought out post. All I’m saying i understand why the government did it. Student loans are unsecured debt taken on by 18 year olds with no credit history or earning history. If it wasn’t guaranteed to be paid back, no bank is doling out $20,000 to a college kid. Why would they? The deal worked for most people as you could find a good paying job after college. The problems didn’t start until companies stopped keeping their end of the bargain by decreasing hiring and pay, and colleges tried to extract more and more by raising tuition out of normal pace of inflation. Before that, it was an okay set up. All I’m saying is trying to retroactively apply 2021 attitudes about student loans to 1990 or even 2005 is dishonest to me because that was before the economy tanked.

I get what you're saying, but the government still had a responsibility to stop the problem from becoming what it is now. When the economy tanked and circumstances changed, the government should have stepped in and prevented student companies and colleges from enacting the changes that they did that allowed student loans to become what they are now. Instead, they overlooked and even helped make the student loan issue worse than it's ever been.

Exactly the same circumstances pertaining to the rent crisis that's going on now. Income isn't going up enough to help offset the rising prices of rent and other necessities. Whose fault is that? We shouldn't give the government slack for not noticing and handling issues before they became what they are now. That's their job to do so. And even if it wasn't their fault, what are they going to do to rectify the problem now?
 

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I'm pretty sure the plan was to cancel $10k via executive order, with them researching to see if $50k, this thread gets made every couple weeks.
 

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The government needs you in debt to keep you slaving.

I just recommend anyone without student loans simply cut out ALL of your expenses you possibly can and starve until you get out of debt. It’s really worth it. You don’t even realize how stressful your life is with debt until you’re out of it.
I have better advice. Just dont pay
 

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I already stayed at home because nothing was on the table to specifically help black people.

If Biden presented some tangibles/money/help for black people I would have been in line Personally to vote for him. Same with any other future candidate.

Voting is an exchange to me...and these nikkas look goofy and sad for giving it up for nothing in return but new crime Bills against black folks.

no president is going to provide that type of financial help.. are you involved in local politics?
 

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I'm pretty sure the plan was to cancel $10k via executive order, with them researching to see if $50k, this thread gets made every couple weeks.

He's calling on Congress to do the $10,000, which they obviously aren't going to do. He knows damn well that they aren't going to do it and even Congress knows that there won't be the votes to make it happen.

It's nothing more than a move to direct blame at Congress when/if it doesn't happen.
 

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This is an insightful and well thought out post. All I’m saying i understand why the government did it. Student loans are unsecured debt taken on by 18 year olds with no credit history or earning history. If it wasn’t guaranteed to be paid back, no bank is doling out $20,000 to a college kid. Why would they? The deal worked for most people as you could find a good paying job after college. The problems didn’t start until companies stopped keeping their end of the bargain by decreasing hiring and pay, and colleges tried to extract more and more by raising tuition out of normal pace of inflation. Before that, it was an okay set up. All I’m saying is trying to retroactively apply 2021 attitudes about student loans to 1990 or even 2005 is dishonest to me because that was before the economy tanked.

Appreciate it breh an I totally agree on what you said. I really don't trip on whether the government cancels the debt or doesn't. Cause I been on both sides of the aisle in this.

I owed 50k plus (including intrest) in student loans and paid it off. At the same time I got homies who till this day ducking and dodging loans. Some of them make 100k a year. Some make less than 40k. Some even got they momma paying on a parent plus loan yet they grown men who are over 30. I know kats who drowning in the loans and know they never gonna be able to pay it back. Also know kats who paid they shyt back.

Got a cousin who makes 130k plus a year. She stay having on the nicest clothes and drives a 80k audi. But hiding money so she can keep paying 150 a month on her student loans on a hardship deal.

Like you said. Originally it was a good idea but many things happened. Higher education felt they could keep charging more and more cause it was government loans, grants and private loans. Jobs began to get shipped overseas and further south to increase profits while cutting wages. Government refusing to increase grants significantly over time. Foolish parents and students not doing a cost benefits analysis on whether taking out a loan for all this money for a degree is effective in ensuring a career. Predatory colleges prey on students and students not taking into account what happens if they are not able to pay back this loan.

The whole thing is a clusterfukk of epic proportion.
 
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