Big Pun washed the best of NY in one verse

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I don't care what canibus did nikka.

He not nice off the head.
Plus so weak.
He got to ask to rhyme accapella.
with the real goats around and still cry reading off of paper.

fukk canibus.

Like i give a fukk about that weak canadian ass nikka. When i already been morw hardbodied in his own country for dolo. Boardroom to block too.

fukk canibus and anybody else beneath my headlining perch.



Art Barr

Come on O.G, caring about 'off the head' skills is some 'sheltered' white boy youtube comment shyt...who's too huff and offbrand to be actualized in the culture.

Nah, I'm playing lol

But...
It's an irrelevant metric when it comes to making music.
 

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you still didn't answer the question. Are Juice and Supernatural better than Rakim and G rap all time due to freestyle ability?


I did answer your question.

Supernatural should be even mentioned in the company of ju, rakim and g rap.

If we judging shyt on timeline.
ju shyts on rakim and g rap tho.
Plus has the larger drawing work.
from the beginning of that timeline.
with more all around mastery of fundamental skills.
needed to emcee.


If you want it spelled out for you.
in timeline and best songs.
release to release juice is better in every way.

Especially if we talking about all time playlists classics and verses as just a key point.

If they talk that jiggy shjt.

Juice is the california radio primetime opening foray gateway for rap on primetime radio. When rap was not played on rhe radio. Creating the original opening gateway of battling and freestyle.
at creating rap's beginning drawing primetime foray.
into primetime and daily spins and bds countdowns.

Predating and creating the idea of the prime time rapper in entertainment. Winning six months straight of cali radio battles all with a briken jaw wired shut. Meaning ju won for six months with a broken jaw.
Creating rhe primetime receipts to be hired to write summertime.
Ju wrote summertime

Plus is why any young nikka trying to rhyme from 97. Till now has a gateway after that in rap based on skill display. Or quite simply, show and prove

All with no arthouse loan money as well.
Whereas neither ra or g rap did without arthouse loan money as well.

Art Barr

*parkerlewis

Fun rant terms and facts

Ask what you have an issue with.
This was not a covert term based post

Art Barr
 

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I did answer your question.

Supernatural should be even mentioned in the company of ju, rakim and g rap.

If we judging shyt on timeline.
ju shyts on rakim and g rap tho.
Plus has the larger drawing work.
from the beginning of that timeline.
with more all around mastery of fundamental skills.
needed to emcee.


If you want it spelled out for you.
in timeline and best songs.
release to release juice is better in every way.

Especially if we talking about all time playlists classics and verses as just a key point.

If they talk that jiggy shjt.

Juice is the california radio primetime opening foray gateway for rap on primetime radio. When rap was not played on rhe radio. Creating the original opening gateway of battling and freestyle.
at creating rap's beginning drawing primetime foray.
into primetime and daily spins and bds countdowns.

Predating and creating the idea of the prime time rapper in entertainment. Winning six months straight of cali radio battles all with a briken jaw wired shut. Meaning ju won for six months with a broken jaw.
Creating rhe primetime receipts to be hired to write summertime.
Ju wrote summertime

Plus is why any young nikka trying to rhyme from 97. Till now has a gateway after that in rap based on skill display. Or quite simply, show and prove

All with no arthouse loan money as well.
Whereas neither ra or g rap did without arthouse loan money as well.

Art Barr

*parkerlewis

Fun rant terms and facts

Ask what you have an issue with.
This was not a covert term based post

Art Barr
So Juice is better than Rakim and G rap? Yo, I don't know what drugs you are on at the moment, but please don't overdose.
 

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He didn't really fall off. Dude maxed his weight out at 698 lbs. Surprising he even had the ability to rap at all at that weight. He was knocking on death's door when he made that 2nd album

Yeeeah Baby is a real fun album to listen to. It's So Hard and 100% are great commercial singles.

Watch Those and Off With His Head are dope street-commercial tracks.

Leatherface and Watch Those have some :merchant: hardcore lines that are wild. Pun's last few bars on Wrong Ones were uncomfortably casual in how evil they were

My Turn is a dope introspective joint

Laughing At You is one of those out there funny track that's unexpected

This the first album that made me take note of Just Blaze

And this a street classic with a :blessed: Buckwild beat

 

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Nope.

That album just wasn’t the super-street, tornado of lyrics the first one was.

It’s like the difference between Kurupt on Dogg Food and Kuruption!;
you could tell there were two different mindsets on each album - I think it was the same for Pun.

Yeeeeeah Baby was more of an album where he made more...(the best term would be) polished, commercial songs instead of just bar-feats.

Also - you can tell it was a pieced-together album because he just died.
It wasn’t really a whole Pun album.
It only had like 15 cuts, when the 1st album had more than 20...

His vocal levels on “You Was Wrong” sound different than everybody elses, like they just made the song around the one verse and hook he had. And Tony Sunshine and Remy each had a song damn near all to themselves.

But nah, he hadn’t fell off....”Watch Those” is still one of the hardest songs to kick off an album OAT.
And right after that, “Off With His Head” seemed like it was gonna be the opposite of that, but nope!
“Leatherface” and “Wrong Ones” go hard, too.

(sidebar: this is the album that made me aware of Just Blaze. When I heard a Just was working with Jay I didn’t know how that was gonna turn out, because I didn’t hear Jay rhyming over the kinda beats Just gave Pun. That was before the Soul Sample Renaissance, doe.)

And besides - the side projects he had done in between the albums had shown he was still solid, even if they were commercial songs. Like “Who Is A Thug”, the Beenie Man joint, the Luke joint, etc.

So no - I can’t go with anybody saying he fell off with the second album. He was pushed off, by death.

Quoting for emphasis. Great post breh, agree on all points
 

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Really though how many pure commercial tracks got the number of quotables It's So Hard contains, especially including the ad libs?

-whole first verse
-"that's my wife, I paid for them titties, get your own your own ya heard? nikkas wanna fukk my wife, nikkas wanna take my life, but it's so haaaard"
-almost came home with the Grammy, next year bringing home 3 for the family
-Iced out like DiBiase, fukk that Liberace
-hardcore you can dance to
-with both hands, take off my pants and jerk me like the Source Awards
-I don't know you maaaaaaaan

 

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So Juice is better than Rakim and G rap? Yo, I don't know what drugs you are on at the moment, but please don't overdose.

@Tommy Gibbs

are we discreditng underground accolades.
which ju has the complete duke in over the entire history of rap.

to do debut records.

well alright...
since we have to jump to ra's major label debut.
you,..@Tommy Gibbs,...
post rakim first cultural debut record.
i will post ju's cultural debut record.


so you post i ain't no joke.
then i will post,..okay.


art barr


this is bullshyt...
duke killed nikkaz as a teen with a broken jaw for six undefeated months and never lost till supernatural allegedly in arigged contest for natural like always.
so that makes someone who hid in the house better because they had a record deal.

we disputing underground kingz now...

no we,..not..i am principal hear: : legendary liege

art barr


fukk all that..
 
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