Bill Belichick Decaying Before Our Eyes Breh

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Personally, I've always had Tuna as the GOAT, not Beli. He could walk into any situation and make them competitive almost immediately. If there wasn't talent on the roster, he was restocking the cupboards within a couple years.

Bill Walsh is the GOAT of coaches. He's one 4 Superbowls and his fingerprints are all over the 5th one. But it's not only his rings that make him the Goat. It's the fact that some many of his assistants have been successful coaches too. To this day his lineage of coaching is still active in the NFL. Yet will Beli none of his assistants have had success coaching in the NFL after leaving the Pats except Charlie Weiss when he left for Notre Dame.
 

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Bill Walsh is the GOAT of coaches. He's one 4 Superbowls and his fingerprints are all over the 5th one. But it's not only his rings that make him the Goat. It's the fact that some many of his assistants have been successful coaches too. To this day his lineage of coaching is still active in the NFL. Yet will Beli none of his assistants have had success coaching in the NFL after leaving the Pats except Charlie Weiss when he left for Notre Dame.
Tuna has Beli, Coughlin and Sean Payton on his coaching tree. That's nine SBs between them.
 

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It's easier to transform an NFL team from missing the playoffs to a playoff contender compared to other sports. The Patriots could easily have a great offseason and be contenders next year :manny:

A lot of people forget that a lot of their players sat out the season for COVID-19 reasons. Not to mention they are in cap hell this year from previous decisions. Why else do people think that they got Cam on the cheap and brought in Hoyer for the minimum?

Next year, they will have the cap space, returning players and a top pick to retool and reload for another run. This year was always going to be a down year for them even with Cam on the roster.
 

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The drafts havent been good

Bro I don't even know why there is an arguement against this. This is common knowledge.

Wasted 2nd round picks on terrible DB's (Glass-I-Dowling, Wheatly, Butler and most recently Dawson) Even Chung was a bust his first tenure with the Pats.

Drafting Jermaine Cunningham ahead of Carlos Dunlap. Drafted so many shytty linebackers and pass rushers Skinny legs, Grissom, Bequette all 3rd round picks.

No suprise our defense was some shyt for years till Chandler, Hightower and Collins made the leap in 2014.
 

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Reread my post. I already addressed this.

"Were all of them the #1 receiver in the league? No. But they were very productive for their teams. And Belichick could have gotten most of them. And the problem is that Belichick's players were nowhere near very productive."

They didn't have to all be Antonio Brown level. But they weren't failures like 75% of the receivers Belichick had drafted were. Again, the Patriots could have gotten Santonio Holmes and Mercedes Lewis but they got Lawrence Maroney, a bust.

And I'm not moving goalposts. I used receivers as an example, because you asked me to bring up examples of how teams like the Ravens and Steelers have been able to find talent without drafting high at the beginning of rounds. I chose Steelers receivers as an example.

I could have done running backs, defense, etc.

Everyone knows this. Belichick isn't that good of a GM.

AGAIN, I'm NOT saying he needed to get top 5 level players at every position. The issue is that too many of them are failures for such a large sample size.

And thats bad given the expectations we hold Belichick to.

Past 19 years Pats went to 9 SBs and won 6 of them, been division champs 17 times including 11 straight :wow:

Teams Beli put together. And he isn't a good GM?:dwillhuh::patrice::what::dead:
 
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