Bill Cosby Infamous Pound Cake Speech -highlights

Should his public speech have been held against him in releasing the sealed testimony?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 34.4%
  • No

    Votes: 21 65.6%

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this is one of the most racist speeches i've ever heard :stopitslime:

i never heard of any real activist making fun of impoverished, marginalized and oppressed groups in order to help them. this is just retarded :what::snoop:

do you nikkas think if you go to favelas in brazil and clown them for how they're living and say you just giving tough love they gon take you seriously? :childplease::martin:

you nikkas are lost :scust:

the fact that black people actually have to debate the merits of this speech is very telling of how we view ourselves. the fact that nikkas think being demeaned and insulted is actually a legitimate form of instruction is sick :snoop:

you nikkas sound like prostitutes or battered women justifying their abuse :scust:

"he beats me and yells at me because he loves me" :mjcry::wow:
 
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I don't see nothing wrong with what I've read so far. I didn't finish though. Some of us black people feel like we got so much stacked against us that we can't take any criticism from our own.
 

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He must feel some way how black people aint rode for him while they did their utmost for a legit kewn like OJ who murdered his wife and all he did was hoe around. Maybe the hypocrisy or the condescension was a bridge too far. But as night follows day, the tide will soon turn with the juxtaposition of the Cosby trial and preponderance of white cops being exonerated for killing black kids. And the black comic who lit that match (and looks like he hangs around a bunch of hipsters in gentrified brooklyn eating granolas with his red headed girlfriend) will get the :ufdup:
poetic justice :manny:
 

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Only problem I had with this speech in 2004 and to the present and his later comments was he didn't go deeper into white supremacy and institutional racism and bashed black parents giving their children non European/white names. Everything he said was pretty much on point. The truth hurts but its necessary.
 

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He must feel some way how black people aint rode for him while they did their utmost for a legit kewn like OJ who murdered his wife and all he did was hoe around. Maybe the hypocrisy or the condescension was a bridge too far. But as night follows day, the tide will soon turn with the juxtaposition of the Cosby trial and preponderance of white cops being exonerated for killing black kids. And the black comic who lit that match (and looks like he hangs around a bunch of hipsters in gentrified brooklyn eating granolas with his red headed girlfriend) will get the :ufdup:
poetic justice :manny:
Welp. He did say there was no racism...

I know he's being played but at the same time, if you're gonna play the game, don't cry when the game plays you.

He's eating the fruit from that #PAWG life tree.

If he'd attacked Black women ONLY, he'd be a hero, like that convicted rapist/torturer Ron Karenga who started Kwanzaa or R. Kelly.
 

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Bill Cosby statements are problematic because he's completely ignoring the fact that no matter what you achieve in life education career or money that you are not immune to the white supremacist system in the United States.

You can have an M.D. PhD JD perfect credit, be an excellent spouse and parent to your children, and if you're Black you can still be murdered by the police.

Sandra bland, Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin, etc., we're not doing anything wrong and were completely innocent when they were murdered by white supremacist or Police or both. Freddie gray did not sever his own spinal cord.

I agree that we need our own people in our communities to protect us from the police. That is why the Black Panther party was destroyed. They acted on behalf of the community. They gave free breakfast and they patrol the neighborhood to protect people from police brutality.

Integration is been the single worst thing to happen to Black people.

Immediately after slavery ended Black people excelled in this country economically politically in every single way.

We excelled so much in fact, that white people using the government enacted laws to restrict our ability to make progress.

When you look at it the period from reconstruction to Jim Crow you will see the amazing amount of hatred racism and horrific behavior towards us.

Racism through white supremacy worked overtime to BLOCK the progress of Black people in every way possible.

White people in United States sought to destroy every single successful Black achievement and community. From Rosewood to Tulsa Oklahoma we see over and over again how black people were attacked because white people were jealous of our progress.

You cannot criticize the communities now that are impoverished due to lack of jobs and economic opportunities based upon some imaginary moral fiber.

The irony is it the same white supremacist racist system that Bill Cosby told us to ignore is now his very own scapegoat for his misfortunes. All of a sudden it is because of racism that he is facing these charges.

How ironic is it that the man who told us that racism is no longer to blame for our misfortune is actually blaming racism for his?

How ironic is it that he condemned entire communities of people for their supposed moral failings when he at the very least was a complete and horrific failure as a father and a husband?

How ironic that a man Who refuse to get justice for his own daughter when she was a victim of rape is now facing justice himself?

There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on, because if they can get Bill Cosby they can get you too.

Any Black man at this point who continues to seek out and have sex with white women is a got damn fool and a dummy and deserves whatever rate and other charges that she puts against him.

Any Black man on this site who continues to spew hatred against Black women is a got damn dummy, because it is a Black woman Bill Cosby's attorney who is defending him vigorously and another black woman his wife who is with him ride or die.

I do not agree with the judges ruling at all, but I think it's really ironic that all of a sudden Bill Cosby believes that racism is a problem.

Bill Cosby actually thinks he's being persecuted because he is a Black man... wow

What the judge did by issuing this ruling is let Bill Cosby know that he is no better than the guy who got shot in the back of the head for stealing the poundcake.

If he wants to cry and boo-hoo someone needs to remind him that he had no business with those women and those Quaaludes or other sedatives.

Those Quaaludes are bill Cosby's poundcake
Here is my biggest issue with you.

You are a narrative changer depending on who it is. As seen with me and Bmoregorilla. You claim we as Blacks of class deal with white supremacy which Cosby is clearly aware of by his previous actions in life and in entertainment.

You mentioned that anyone could be killed like Trayvon Martin which Cosby would know as his own son was killed by a white supremacist like Zimmerman in the 90s.

You can't help older Blacks who grew up in previous times to scratch their heads and be confused of what went wrong. They didn't grow up in our world. Just like we didn't grow up in the Chief Keef world. They see how BM and BW don't get allow and can't see how this is happening but it is. Integration isn't what killed us because segregation sucked too. We need integration of resources which would be vital to our and anyone success.

A lot of points simply has been said before by numerous others but Cosby is right about one thing. We must come together and trust each other. That includes your actions of judging men by the merit of reason than the merit of like. That includes us men treating you all better and you demanding respect in the way a man can receive it. The biggest issue is we don't trust each other. You only want fine nikkas respect and they only want bad bytches attention.

And we wonder why our community is a shyt hole. Until that happens, ain't no way we are going to build up businesses as a community. Like Earth, Wind and Fire stated, "after the love is gone, what use to be right is wrong".

Bill didn't grow up in a perfect time and he did some bad things like cheat on his wife. But there is love there. Until we get love back, we are set up for failure regardless of our individual success as success will always be a team sport.

God bless
 

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Here is my biggest issue with you.

You are a narrative changer depending on who it is. As seen with me and Bmoregorilla. You claim we as Blacks of class deal with white supremacy which Cosby is clearly aware of by his previous actions in life and in entertainment.

You mentioned that anyone could be killed like Trayvon Martin which Cosby would know as his own son was killed by a white supremacist like Zimmerman in the 90s.

You can't help older Blacks who grew up in previous times to scratch their heads and be confused of what went wrong. They didn't grow up in our world. Just like we didn't grow up in the Chief Keef world. They see how BM and BW don't get allow and can't see how this is happening but it is. Integration isn't what killed us because segregation sucked too. We need integration of resources which would be vital to our and anyone success.

A lot of points simply has been said before by numerous others but Cosby is right about one thing. We must come together and trust each other. That includes your actions of judging men by the merit of reason than the merit of like. That includes us men treating you all better and you demanding respect in the way a man can receive it. The biggest issue is we don't trust each other. You only want fine nikkas respect and they only want bad bytches attention.

And we wonder why our community is a shyt hole. Until that happens, ain't no way we are going to build up businesses as a community. Like Earth, Wind and Fire stated, "after the love is gone, what use to be right is wrong".

Bill didn't grow up in a perfect time and he did some bad things like cheat on his wife. But there is love there. Until we get love back, we are set up for failure regardless of our individual success as success will always be a team sport.

God bless

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He must feel some way how black people aint rode for him while they did their utmost for a legit kewn like OJ who murdered his wife and all he did was hoe around. Maybe the hypocrisy or the condescension was a bridge too far. But as night follows day, the tide will soon turn with the juxtaposition of the Cosby trial and preponderance of white cops being exonerated for killing black kids. And the black comic who lit that match (and looks like he hangs around a bunch of hipsters in gentrified brooklyn eating granolas with his red headed girlfriend) will get the :ufdup:
poetic justice :manny:
O.J. didn't murder Nicole. I wish c00n nikkas will stop saying that. With that said O.J. knew who did and didn't do shyt about it except cover it up. Many on the case knew who did it but this was bigger than O.J.

WhIle I don't want to believe Bill raped these women, I really don't know either way. Either way, this Hollywood culture is demonic and no one leaves with clean hands.

I think what bothers Bill is that he expects White women to say shyt, he has no value of them. But he really values Black women and many have turned on him even if the Black women are clearly lying like Beverly Johnson for example, a lot of sistas hate black men right now and Bill is just not realizing how fukked up the Black community is right now. We have hatred from all angles and Bill being old doesn't realize the Black America he is in right now.

Should Blacks have Cosby's back? Of course, whites have been doing this dog and pony show of paying ppl off to throw your black ass in jail for decades so why believe this is any different but then again, Black ppl didn't go on tour with Sarah Palin and other white supremacists to complain about the Black community, you did Bill.

I will give Bill the benefits of doubt since I will never trust a cac in these situations but I am not not blinding supporting him too and I do believe he is guilty of being adulterer.
 

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Here is my biggest issue with you.

You are a narrative changer depending on who it is. As seen with me and Bmoregorilla. You claim we as Blacks of class deal with white supremacy which Cosby is clearly aware of by his previous actions in life and in entertainment.

You mentioned that anyone could be killed like Trayvon Martin which Cosby would know as his own son was killed by a white supremacist like Zimmerman in the 90s.

You can't help older Blacks who grew up in previous times to scratch their heads and be confused of what went wrong. They didn't grow up in our world. Just like we didn't grow up in the Chief Keef world. They see how BM and BW don't get allow and can't see how this is happening but it is. Integration isn't what killed us because segregation sucked too. We need integration of resources which would be vital to our and anyone success.

A lot of points simply has been said before by numerous others but Cosby is right about one thing. We must come together and trust each other. That includes your actions of judging men by the merit of reason than the merit of like. That includes us men treating you all better and you demanding respect in the way a man can receive it. The biggest issue is we don't trust each other. You only want fine nikkas respect and they only want bad bytches attention.

And we wonder why our community is a shyt hole. Until that happens, ain't no way we are going to build up businesses as a community. Like Earth, Wind and Fire stated, "after the love is gone, what use to be right is wrong".

Bill didn't grow up in a perfect time and he did some bad things like cheat on his wife. But there is love there. Until we get love back, we are set up for failure regardless of our individual success as success will always be a team sport.

God bless
I'm not sure I understand how I'm a narrative changer and I appreciate your response.

I believe this case is causing cognitive dissonance. It creates a conflict for a lot of people.

I believe that the judge who allowed this was wrong. His sealed deposition should have never been released.

I believe that there is a deliberate campaign against him.

I agree with him in that people should make better moral choices however his speech and others like it are far too simplistic.

I prefer the approach of someone like Marva Collins, The great Chicago educator who started a private school for low income children who are labeled as learning disabled. Because she was in the environment with those children she could teach them in love how to make better choices.

I have done community service and also come from the hood myself. When I'm working with people who have adverse situations I do not make them feel bad or belittle them.

I am not a special snowflake, there is nothing amazing or different about me. There's nothing about me that makes me better than anyone else. Despite the abundant amount of shyt I may talk on the Coli, I one hundred percent believe and offering people solutions and support and encouragement.

No one should be ashamed of the past mistakes if they've me or how many children they have or how many different fathers their children have. When you make a person feel ashamed, that can push them to make even more mistakes.

The ghettos are full of hard-working honest people who just don't have any money. So many Black women are ashamed of their reproductive choices that more Black babies are aborted than born.

I fully support anyone who's willing to go into the underserved communities provide things like free breakfast, afterschool programs and citizen police monitoring and tutoring.

I am against the campaign of destruction against Bill Cosby, as well as any other Black person.

I'm just going to bury my head in the sand and pretend that me being bitter and hateful and judgmental will solve anything.

If I'm working with young people from low income backgrounds, I'm not going to shame them for their circumstances. They already feel ashamed. I'm going to continue to be respectful and encouraging.

I'm actually very resourceful. And I have personally helped a lot of people achieve their goals.

Talk is cheap.

We have to be the person going into the underserved communities and reaching out to the people.

It's me that has to do this.

Instead of ragging a young man or shaming him for sagging, I'll politely explain the MEANING to him and give him a choice for himself.

I'm not smarter than anyone here. I only believe in treating people with respect and helping them find solutions.

Bill Cosby has done a lot of good work and he has been nothing but kind and professional to me.

And even though this is a witchhunt, he open the door and made it easier for them by the choices he made.

I am not gloating in any of this.

I just wanted to make it clear that for people who feel so strongly about his speech either way that those of us who are able need to make efforts towards reaching out to people whose lives are filled with poverty and destruction.

If your intent is honest and true you can make a difference in even just one person's life. You can be the voice of reason to person that may not have parents Who are able to reach them.
 
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