Bill Maher shuts down Cornel West's stupidity equating Trump and Hillary

[Oville]

I hate people trying to pin Hilary's election loss on "Bernie or Busters" or "PC" people. She won the popular vote by 3 million she didn't need THOSE people. She lost because she arrogantly chose not to fix her image in the place where she needed to do so the most which was with blue collar white folk in the mid west. She's the face of globalization, free trade, foreign interventionism, and Wall Street pandering to those people and she did nothing to repair that image.

 

[Oville]

Plus Cornell never said Hilary was equivalent to Trump, just that she wouldn't be a great choice either.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Plus Cornell never said Hilary was equivalent to Trump, just that she wouldn't be a great choice either.

You didn't change anything.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I hate people trying to pin Hilary's election loss on "Bernie or Busters" or "PC" people. She won the popular vote by 3 million she didn't need THOSE people. She lost because she arrogantly chose not to fix her image in the place where she needed to do so the most which was with blue collar white folk in the mid west. She's the face of globalization, free trade, foreign interventionism, and Wall Street pandering to those people and she did nothing to repair that image.

she lost, because stupid people get to vote.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You talking about stuff like global warming and climate change when black children are being deliberately poisoned with contamominated drinking water all over the country. Thats the problem with folks like you and maher. Priority should be on preservation of black lives being impacted NOW. At this point Black folks may even live long enough to even be effected by global warming etc...

Good luck with ANY of this under Trump

Oh, and lets not ignore the literally hundreds of bureaucrats who failed Flint before it lands on the desk at 1600 Penn Ave.

Some of y'all love running shyt up the ladder when its convenient

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

regardless of who you agree with here, i just wanted to point out that maher has no interest in having a conversation with anyone. all you have to do on his show is SUGGEST there is an alternative point of view and he starts screaming over you. cornell could have provided irrefutable proof that hillary clinton was satan and bill maher would have drowned it out.

every single thing maher goes ballistic about with trump, a similar accusation can be made about hillary. but like most political cheerleaders he only cares about lies and corruption when its coming from the other team.

This is also wrong.

Bill concedes when he's wrong, quite often. He's just a confident person and y'all don't give him any props. Y'all never liked him anyways. Don't play yourself.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You are correct that all of those issues effect black people much more than other groups.. But all those issues are also symptoms of the larger problem of lack of black wealth. And in light of all this dems still refuse consider solutions that target ONLY black people directly in response making them clearly your enemy as well. Obama said a rising tide lifts all boats.. which is true but that doesn't address the fact that other groups in yatchs and black folks are in a row boat. You have to address disparity directly.

Hilary talked about fixing the pay gap for women as a conerstone of her platform when the data clearly shows that the racial gap in pay is larger problem and white women make even more than black men when equally qualified. But that's who you think black people should support?

Like I said following them is suicidal. The status quo is dangerous to the black community. All data shows this. Its a downward trend towards permanent underclass. That's why Obama bragged about a jobs report that showed white unemployment going down while blacks unemployment was more than double that of whites and increasing. Guys like Maher and dems have no issues with that. It didnt trigger any urgency from politicians to enact policies addressing it directly because blacks folks in crisis is now status quo. It's accepted as normal that blacks are worse off than everyone else. Do you support 50% of black wealth being eliminated under Obama? Which democratic candidate is even talking about black wealth and black economic empowerment? Clinton didnt. Obama didnt. Even Bernie didnt.

Hillary literally mentioned racial justice more than Bernie.

You know this right?

And don't start on this black is worse than women rights bullshyt

The fact is, Hillary would have maintained the momentum under Obama.

Thats what matters.

 

[Pressure]

I find it amazing that people talk about the lack of black wealth. Being modern day slaves in the prison industrial complex. All these types of statements under the guise that they are woke, but are unable to flesh out his these are a result of laws and policies to maintain the status quo. Then they do this to further create a false equivalence between democrats and republicans saying everything is the same while conveniently overlooking conservatives systematically attempting to reverse all the games that had potential to promote change.

 

[Oville]

she lost, because stupid people get to vote.

Her and her supporters need to make her actually accountable for her loss. This dude was a fukking walking disaster and she couldn't put him to bed. America's got stupid voters but its her and her campaign's job to to read the field. Their was an obvious enthusiasm gap and she wasn't connecting with those mid west towns.

 

[Oville]

You didn't change anything.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Her and her supporters need to make her actually accountable for her loss. This dude was a fukking walking disaster and she couldn't put him to bed. America's got stupid voters but its her and her campaign's job to to read the field. Their was an obvious enthusiasm gap and she wasn't connecting with those mid west towns.

Y'all keep wanting Hillary to atone for fukking breathing air.

Come up off it.

Clearly the popular vote doesn't mean shyt to you.

Grown ass adults voted for Trump. Don't let them off the hook.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Nigerianwonder

 

[Oville]

Y'all keep wanting Hillary to atone for fukking breathing air.

Come up off it.

Clearly the popular vote doesn't mean shyt to you.

Grown ass adults voted for Trump. Don't let them off the hook.

Dude who said I'm not? But your girl is to blame for her loss.

 

[greenygreen]

 

[DirtyD]

I voted for Hillary and if for some reason tomorrow the presidential election had to be redone between her and Trump, I’d vote for her again. With that said it is disgusting the way in which her sycophants go around attempting to rationalize and defend all of the disgusting things she has done. Case in point:

Theres nothing wrong with trade deals.

Depends on who you’re talking about for instance NAFTA had the following effects on workers:

This study’s model also makes possible an analysis of the demographic composition of NAFTA’s impact on employment. The analysis finds that NAFTA has eliminated significant numbers of jobs for women and members of minority groups, as well as white males. Between 1993 and 1996, women lost 141,454 jobs to NAFTA, blacks lost 36,890 jobs, and Hispanics lost 22,520 jobs, numbers closely reflecting these groups’ shares in manufacturing industries. Moreover, a disproportionate number of the jobs eliminated by NAFTA were manufacturing jobs, which pay relatively high wages, further contributing to NAFTA’s detrimental effect on the distribution of income and wages of working Americans.

NAFTA’s Casualties: Employment effects on men, women, and minorities

And further, the Haitian thing is overblown.

Now interfering in elections isn't a big deal, funny how that works.:Whitepls:

In both Honduras and Haiti, Clinton chose to shy away from letting each country’s voters choose their leaders when the going got tough. American voters, the people of Honduras, the people of Haiti and anyone who cares about democracy and human rights should know whether Clinton as president would be a promoter of such values.

Opinion | Hillary Clinton needs to answer for her actions in Honduras and Haiti

Libya? Too bad.

So the enslavement of Africans is too bad, huh.

Victims told IOM that after being detained by people smugglers or militia groups, they were taken to town squares or car parks to be sold.

Migrants with skills like painting or tiling would fetch higher prices, the head of the IOM in Libya told the BBC.

Libya has been in chaos since the 2011 Nato-backed ousting of Muammar Gaddafi.

Super predators, she apologized. (Bernie actually VOTED for the bill)

I don’t think Bernie should have voted for it then and I’m not letting him off the hook, he already knew that it was wrong to vote for and he shouldn't have, but he at least he made his concerns with bill known, Hillary went on fukking tour to promote that bill.

The shift in rhetoric and policy around criminal justice issues has been significant over the last two decades. In fact, 21 years ago, Hillary Clinton as first lady spoke to a conference for female police officers where he pushed her husband's agenda in New York.

At the time, Clinton said the 1994 crime bill — which called for 100,000 more police officers, more prisons, and harsher sentencing for crimes, and enacted stricter gun laws — would "make a difference in your lives as police officers and in the lives of the communities you serve."

"We will be able to say, loudly and clearly, that for repeat, violent, criminal offenders — three strikes and you're out. We are tired of putting you back in through the revolving door," remarked the then-first lady.

Clinton also noted that the crime bill would help build more prisons.

"We will also finally understand that fighting crime is not just a question of punishment, although there are many dollars in the crime bill to build more prisons," she said. "It is also a question of prevention. We want to give police officers the tools to help young people stay out of trouble. We want to begin to give young people something to say yes to, not just to have to face the bleak, alienated streets that too often push them in the wrong direction."

Here's Hillary Clinton In 1994 Talking Up Tough-On-Crime Legislation

Neoliberalism is the reason why black Americans are the wealthiest representation of the entire black diaspora.

Is that why since the recession, the wealth gap has widened?


Wealth inequality has widened along racial, ethnic lines since end of Great Recession


Also:

When Bill Clinton left office in 2001, the true jobless rate for young, non-college-educated black men (including those behind bars) was 42 percent.


Why is this not common knowledge? Because government statistics like poverty and unemployment rates do not include incarcerated people. As Harvard sociologist Bruce Western explains: “Much of the optimism about declines in racial inequality and the power of the U.S. model of economic growth is misplaced once we account for the invisible poor, behind the walls of America’s prisons and jails.”

http://www.theroot.com/the-clinton-legacy-is-black-impoverishment-so-why-are-w-1790854176