Bill Simmons says he'll take Nash ahead of Iverson

[YourMajesty]

Ain’t reading thru this thread but Nash was NOT better than Ivo

 

[Box Factory]

If it's nowadays you take Nash

In 96 you take Iverson

 

[ManBearPig]

Compare 15ppg to 30 ppg brehs Iverson could do anything he wanted on the offensivive end .

Nash from 3 was as consistent as Iverson from midrange

I dont care what their PPG averages were. Nash clearly a better jump shooter and you're stupid if you believe on the contrary

 

[DonRe]

I mean it depends on preference. Bill aint the typical racist gasbag sport personality.
So he okay in my book.

They are rather very different pg’s.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

He was in a weak East but he also had a weak cast. The Bucks had a better squad and he got passed em in 6 games. You can say the conference was weak but Nash would not have made it to the Finals in 01 like AI did.

Plus if AI was on the Suns in that era he possibly makes the Finals at least once and maybe even wins. In 07 maybe they take care of the Spurs and get passed the Jazz and Cavs. Remember a lot of people thought the Suns were better that year but they got screwed over when Amare got suspended. A lot of people thought the Suns got robbed that year because of that. In the game Amare didn’t play Steve was 6-19 for 19 pts and they only scored 85 pts and lost by 3. I’m sure if AI is there instead of Nash he manages to score A LOT more pts even if it’s on bad shooting. And in MDAs offense he would’ve been getting hella dimes.

Everyone wants to talk about Nash's fg % being better than A.I.'s. Well when you're playing with Amare,Joe Johnson,Marion, you're gonna get wide open shots especially in MDA's system when you play with Dirk And Finley nobody gives a fukk about some 15 ppg scorer In Philly they built a great defensive team and relied on A.I. to do EVERYTHING offensively. Double teams and triple teams were the norm If you put the answer on those suns teams,with those players,in that system He'd definitely get a chip. And might've had not only Nash's two MVP awards but possibly more. Put him on Dirk's squad with that outside shooting and he scores with ease all the time.

 

[steph_harden]

Nash was better than you think he was

I agree with that

acting like its some disrespect to Iverson to take Nash over him. He was not as good as you think he was

Ok this was disrespectful as fukk. When u combine Iverson’s physical ability with his skills he’s one of the 10 most talented players ever. So nah he’s as good as we thought he was

 

[premier58]

Why didnt Iverson win a playoff series in Denver with an elite scorer by his side?

 

[teacher]

Why didnt Iverson win a playoff series in Denver with an elite scorer by his side?

Nash never sniffed an NBA finals and his great years were only a handful, those 2 mvp years.

Biggest difference is consistency

 

[premier58]

Nash never sniffed an NBA finals and his great years were only a handful, those 2 mvp years.

Biggest difference is consistency

What does have to.do with Iverson being able to win a solitary series in the West?

 

[teacher]

What does have to.do with Iverson being able to win a solitary series in the West?

nothing, he was washed at that point reason why the 6ers got rid of him

but prime AI vs Nash it’s AI 10 out of 10

 

[Dorian Breh]

If Iverson had a coach instead of dumbass Larry he would've got a chip.

Nobody on his teams could play offense, but if he had a coach with an offensive mind he could've at least run plays to get good looks instead of forcing everything himself.

If you watch that 01 finals game the Sixers don't even run pin down screens for him, a 5'11 supernova. It's absurd.

And before we start talking about the "era" you can see the Lakers in the same game running the triangle on the opposite side of the ball actually manufacturing good buckets.

Larry Brown destroyed Iverson's career by not making any effort to implement an offensive system for him.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Everyone wants to talk about Nash's fg % being better than A.I.'s. Well when you're playing with Amare,Joe Johnson,Marion, you're gonna get wide open shots especially in MDA's system when you play with Dirk And Finley nobody gives a fukk about some 15 ppg scorer In Philly they built a great defensive team and relied on A.I. to do EVERYTHING offensively. Double teams and triple teams were the norm If you put the answer on those suns teams,with those players,in that system He'd definitely get a chip. And might've had not only Nash's two MVP awards but possibly more. Put him on Dirk's squad with that outside shooting and he scores with ease all the time.

'04-'05 Suns starting 5 was

Nash - MVP, better than AI..."blossoming" at 30
Q-Rich
Iso Joe
Matrix - All-NBA, 20pt 10rb guy with great D
Stat - All-NBA beast dropping 26 a night




In D'antoni's system.... looking back on it, if Nash is supposed to be this all-time great player, they should've ran off 70 plus games and won the chip on some Warriors shyt

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Why didnt Iverson win a playoff series in Denver with an elite scorer by his side?

Give him the same cop out y'all giving the superior player Nash... "OMG NASH HAD TO PLAY THE SPURS, HOW COULD HE BE EXPECTED TO WIN "

Melo and Ivo ran into Kobe (PBUH) in the midst of a 3 year finals run

 

[ManBearPig]

nothing, he was washed at that point reason why the 6ers got rid of him

but prime AI vs Nash it’s AI 10 out of 10

Nash is older..

 

[mastermind]

In that era no one was really complaining or hating on AI for gunning.

This is untrue. Iverson used to get a lot of grief for his inefficient play. It’s why he and Larry Brown butted heads so much.