Black Americans have lowest suicide rate in the developed world

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So what's your theory on why black Americans have had much lower suicide rates throughout history compared to whites?

I restricted it to the OECD developed countries since developing countries always have higher suicide rates due to economic circumstances. I never alleged the lower rate is genetic. In fact our convergence with Whites (though slow) shows culture and socioeconomic considerations play a big role.
 

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Yes, the rate has been increasing and the convergence is probably driven by cultural and socioeconomic convergence with Whites over the same time period. I saw the research on the children and while it is tragic and bears paying attention to find out what is going on, it is an extremely small factor in the overall suicide rate in the population. Suicide rate generally increases with age jumping rapidly in teenage years and then cruising upwards towards old age where it dips at 65 but then jumps again around 75 or so (except for women where it stays low).
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Also though the rate for Black children (chart below) is showing a disturbing trend but is crazy low. 2.54 child suicides per million and there are 7 million Black children roughly in that age bracket. So that is roughly 17 - 20 child suicides per year. Awful for sure but not numerically large.

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As far as the 84% increase, it was bad, but you typically get such huge jumps starting off a low base. In addition this data is showing the jump in suicide from 1984-1994. It doesn't talk about how the rate fell after that. The peak for Black male suicide rates was actually the early 90s.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/health/suicide-youth/

The rates of suicide among African-American children have doubled in the last two decades, surpassing the rates among white children, which dropped over the same time period, according to a new study.

Researchers looked at the suicide rates among children ages 5 to 11 between 1993 and 2012. The rates overall did not change over these years, but the rates among black boys rose from 1.78 to 3.47 per 1 million. In contrast, suicides among white boys declined from 1.96 to 1.31 per million. In just the 5-year period between 2008 and 2012 there were 41 suicide deaths among black boys, and 73 among white boys.

"Suicide rates in the U.S. have historically been higher among white individuals across all age groups," said Jeffrey Bridge, epidemiologist at the Research Institute at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, who led the research, published Monday in the journal JAMA Pediatrics. "We were very surprised to see higher suicide rates among black children over time," added Bridge, who is also associate professor of pediatrics at The Ohio State University.

In fact, the researchers waited for numbers from 2012 to be available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which was their source of data, to have more confidence in what they were seeing. It did not change their findings.

The suicide rates among girls, although about five times lower than those for boys, followed the same racial trend. The rates among black girls increased from 0.68 to 1.23 per 1 million, although the rise was not statistically significant. Meanwhile the rates among white girls appeared to be stable, at about 0.25 per million.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/health/us-suicide-rate-surges-to-a-30-year-high.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — Suicide in the United States has surged to the highest levels in nearly 30 years, a federal data analysis has found, with increases in every age group except older adults. The rise was particularly steep for women. It was also substantial among middle-aged Americans, sending a signal of deep anguish from a group whose suicide rates had been stable or falling since the 1950s.

The suicide rate for middle-aged women, ages 45 to 64, jumped by 63 percent over the period of the study, while it rose by 43 percent for men in that age range, the sharpest increase for males of any age. The overall suicide rate rose by 24 percent from 1999 to 2014, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, which released the study on Friday.

The increases were so widespread that they lifted the nation’s suicide rate to 13 per 100,000 people, the highest since 1986
. The rate rose by 2 percent a year starting in 2006, double the annual rise in the earlier period of the study. In all, 42,773 people died from suicide in 2014, compared with 29,199 in 1999.


BLACK SUICIDE: When Prayer Is Not Enough - EBONY

Although Black suicide has historically been low when compared to other groups, don’t be fooled. From 1981-1994, Black suicide rates grew by a ghastly 83%. Today suicide is the third leading cause of death among young African American men. In 2010, over 80% of all Black suicides were males. Women of most all ethnicities attempt suicide at a higher rate than men, yet men complete the task at a higher rate; a stomach pump does nothing for a gun-shot wound to the head. Black women are less likely than any other American demographic to commit suicide.

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Suicide for Black USA citizens has only been going up...and it is a leading cause of death for Black males...

United States citizens in general don't commit suicide as much as other nations...

And Black USA citizens are the most optimistic group of people in the country...
 

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Act like increasing suicide rates in the USA and in the Black population that has been going on for decades isn't a major issue...

But wanna celebrate low suicide rates when suicide is 3rd leading cause of death for Black males...

Decade long trends ain't gonna stop trending in 2 years...that's not how math works...

The decade long increase in suicide for Blacks peaked in 1994 since then it has been a two decade decrease, see previous post.
 

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Gotta disagree with the narrative that we're stronger and dont kill ourselves, its far more complicated.

Consider how many nikkas beef with cats that live less than 15 blocks away and have a body or two on them. You're drastically increasing the chances of revenge based on proximity alone. Its only so many nikkas u can clap or clap at without karma comin back on ya.

U body a nikka and go inside and his cousin / brother / father / son / patna locked down with u you think the nikka(s) aint gonna try and get at u? Suicide by cop is a real thing. A lot of these "REAL NIKKAS!" are bytch made on the inside and lash out at others cuz they ain't brave enough to commit that on they own and leave everyone else out of it so they bait others into doin it 4 them which is much worse considering they bring those others with them due to the beefs it takes to create said situation in the 1st place.

Consider then the ripple effect beef has and you can now tie every single body that drops after the 1st willful suicide to be a result of it. At least the the truly suicidal person only takes themselves in the majority of cases. These so called real nikkas go out on some kamakazi shyt.

Doubt it? Big 1st album was named what again? Ready To Die

Pac and Scarface constantly talkin bout suicide and WISHING to die young.

And if u had a life that difficult why wouldnt someone consider it?

Nikkas abusing drugs everyday ? Choosing to die slowly

Nikkas goin raw in every thot on the block? Choosing to die slowly

It's more to this problem than we think

Pretty interesting perspective...self-destructive behavior is real but it is hard to tie drug use and homicide to people who would kill themselves otherwise.

Our suicide rate has trended similarly with our homicide rate so it seems there could be some relation.
 
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So that is roughly 17 - 20 child suicides per year. Awful for sure but not numerically large.

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As far as the 84% increase, it was bad, but you typically get such huge jumps starting off a low base. In addition this data is showing the jump in suicide from 1984-1994. It doesn't talk about how the rate fell after that. The peak for Black male suicide rates was actually the early 90s.
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:mjcry: Even one baby killin theyself is too many dawg
 

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There's no such thing as living to die slowly when youre going to die regardless

Y'all say anything to discredit your own people's strength and prosperity :snoop:

The posters saying that are not black they are white don't mind them cac fakkits opinion... @CharlieManson cac came In with his white statistics then the other white boys spoke up...wish you cac fakkits would leave our culture enjoy yours
 

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:salute:AA br3hs..

Imagine the potential that could be unleashed if we as black people where able to reduce the needless violence that sometimes between us.
 

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:mjcry: Even one baby killin theyself is too many dawg

I know...a family friend's son tried committing suicide at age 10. I'm not making light of it but just want people to know the scale of the problem. Sad thing is, with those small numbers it is going to be hard to find a consistent cause that we can prevent.
 

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There's no such thing as living to die slowly when youre going to die regardless

Y'all say anything to discredit your own people's strength and prosperity :snoop:
Thats almost like saying suicide by cop is not a real thing because u would have just shot ursel if you really wanted to do it. Most people dont have the will to off themselves... but they are still going thru the same mental struggles as the ppl who can kill themself.
A lot of our ppl do things that can get you killed immediately but without having to do it themself. They gamble with their lives, because they dont care about life.
I have another concern though.
When it comes to something like this, suicide, i don't understand the grouping of people. Like you said, discrediting "our people's strength and prosperity"... I dont know what the other brother living in some slums in detroit is going thru with his own story. He kills himself for whatever reason, that doesnt make me less stronger as a black man. And me not killing myself doesnt mean anything for him... These are all personal struggles that we shouldn't subject to the usual "we are better than them whites" back and forth.
 

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If you accept these numbers as gospel than you have to accept the crime rate numbers as gospel as well.. can't have your cake and eat it too...

I agree that we as Black people are the stronger race in every measurable statistic but we are also far to susceptible to the pitfall in life or "the system" if you will..(drugs/crime)..I like us to get those numbers down and college enrollments up before with start bragging about anything
 
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If you accept these numbers as gospel than you have to accept the crime rate numbers as gospel as well.. can't have your cake and eat it too...

I agree that we as Black people are the stronger race in every measurable statistic but we are also far to susceptible to the pitfall in life or "the system" if you will..(drugs/crime)..I like us to get those numbers down and college enrollments up before with start bragging about anything

I never argued the crime rates aren't terrible. There we are the reverse and around the highest in the developed world. :mjcry:

I want to get college up as well but I have a deep feeling with the high costs and student loan debt burden college attendance rates for all races will tumble hard in the next downturn.
 

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Black people are experts at living with and through pain. Black people also report higher levels of optimism regarding the future. Plus, we don't really subscribe to existential nihilism like others do.
 

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:salute:AA br3hs..

Imagine the potential that could be unleashed if we as black people where able to reduce the needless violence that sometimes between us.

Exactly! Im also tired of the gender war between black men and black women. We just need to get along cause were all we got down here.
 
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