Black communists getting arrested left and right

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Probably and likely.

The problem is "Russian supported" has become propagated to the point where it doesn't even have to have legitimacy; It can be used as a catch all to smother out any decenting or "radical" ideal. The accusation is enough.

It’s a real problem. Just look at how badly some groups were effected by the last rounds of sanctions. Once that money dried up and bots were deactivated, engagement around the board went down.

They are pretty easy to spot too: irreconcilable beliefs, spring up out of nowhere with a considerable base, push a hardline when it comes to Russian actions, etc
 

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Sure is funny how communists always end up defending authoritarian regimes purely on "but the United States" grounds. Last time I checked Russian illegally invaded a sovereign nation, and said sovereign nation has the right to defend itself.

All facts. But that exact same logic somehow doesn't apply to Western-backed Zionists invading Palestine :jbhmm:
 
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Aleksandr Viktorovich Ionov was charged in federal court in Florida with conspiring to have U.S. citizens act as illegal agents of the Russian government. Federal agents executed a search warrant at the Uhuru House, which served as the base of a African Socialist group. In recent weeks, the organization made news after its flag was torched with a flamethrower. A Tampa man was arrested and charged with criminal mischief in that particular incident.

Court documents say Ionov was working with political organizations to support political candidates and spread pro-Russian propaganda during its invasion of Ukraine. The federal indictment states that Ionov was in constant contact with un-named conspirators in Moscow as far back as 2014 and included a trail of wire transfers. Ionov’s goal, say investigators, was to recruit separatist organization to use as the medium to diffuse information.

In 2015, Ionov is alleged to have sent the director of the Uhuru movement on an all-expense paid trip to Moscow.

The Treasury Department also announced sanctions against him Friday, accusing him of giving money to organizations that he and Russian intelligence services thought would create a political disturbance in the U.S. and also looked into ways to support an unspecified 2022 gubernatorial candidate.

The Uhuru Movement is denying any involvement in anti-American activities and stated that they are allowed to have relationships with countries, like Russia and China and they called the government’s actions “an attack.”

Idiots. You have to refine your views well enough to where you can't fall for the useful idiot trap.
 

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Idiots. You have to refine your views well enough to where you can't fall for the useful idiot trap.
What are you trying to imply?

Omali Yeshytela is a Black icon with deep roots in the civil rights movement aswell as Black liberation movements..Being sent on a trip to Moscow is no different than Huey Newton being on all expense paid trips to China which he spoke about on Firing Line.

That has nothing to do with being a foreign agent.

I hope that’s not what you’re trying to say.
 

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I was speaking on foreign influence cases in general...

you asked specifically for black people arrested with sealed paperwork....

Do you want a list of White people arrested with sealed docs?

I'm pretty sure I can pull those up
The quote I responded to you mentioned Russia would fund any side in particular to promote division. I asked if you could find a single case (and I established the timeline all the way back to 2005 based on social media) where it's been proven black folks are taking money to sow dissention from Russia....Now are you saying you can't find 1? In damn near 20 years you can't find 1 case of this proven to be happening?
 

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I support Palestine.
:hubie:

Props to you, we must be in the minority here.

I brought that up because that's a big reason why a whole lot of people aren't buying the whole "Big bad Russia" thing when Western-backed Zionists have been doing the same for decades in Occupied Palestine. And if you support Palestine you're bound to be call a terrorist or an antisemite sooner or later.
 

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Props to you, we must be in the minority here.

I brought that up because that's a big reason why a whole lot of people aren't buying the whole "Big bad Russia" thing when Western-backed Zionists have been doing the same for decades in Occupied Palestine. And if you support Palestine you're bound to be call a terrorist or an antisemite sooner or later.
The genesis of that was the Six Days War, which Israel technically started in response to non-military Egyptian aggression. It was certainly a war of aggression on Israel's part. I wouldn't compare it directly with what Russia is doing, where they're effectively trying to annex Ukraine.

My problem with this shyt is for weeks there was a union between communists, socialists, and right wing extremists that Putin had no plans to invade Ukraine and that the US government was lying about their intel. And when the intel turned out to be 100% correct and Putin invaded, these clowns didn't get new talking points. They simply moved to spreading Russian disinformation. One week it was "Ukraine is a Nazi regime" next week it was "Ukraine is developing chemical weapons." Ironically the same type of bullshyt the US government peddled in order to invade Iraq, yet this time left wingers were falling for it.
 

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The endgame of divestment is an eartha kitt-like relationship with places like rhodesia and South Africa :mjpls:
 

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The genesis of that was the Six Days War, which Israel technically started in response to non-military Egyptian aggression. It was certainly a war of aggression on Israel's part. I wouldn't compare it directly with what Russia is doing, where they're effectively trying to annex Ukraine.

My problem with this shyt is for weeks there was a union between communists, socialists, and right wing extremists that Putin had no plans to invade Ukraine and that the US government was lying about their intel. And when the intel turned out to be 100% correct and Putin invaded, these clowns didn't get new talking points. They simply moved to spreading Russian disinformation. One week it was "Ukraine is a Nazi regime" next week it was "Ukraine is developing chemical weapons." Ironically the same type of bullshyt the US government peddled in order to invade Iraq, yet this time left wingers were falling for it.

The Zionists invasion started by the establishment of the State of Israel, but that's not really the point here. The point it's still a State colonizing another area, and it's been going on for decades.

For the rest most serious anti-colonial militants I know/follow condemn both agressions, but see very clearly in how they are treated totally differently. While BDS is called "antisemitism", all kinds of Russian artists have been boycotted by European institutions. Hell here in France there was even the case of a Russian teenager who couldn't go to a school field visit because he's Russian. The double standards and hypocrisy is insane.
 
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