Black communists getting arrested left and right

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So business as usual. A lot of us are too young to have lived under the cold war as adults. The paranoia around communism was like the paranoia around Islamic terrorism x 100. I'm re-reading Manufacturing Consent and that shyt still holds up.

The media, the military, police, etc. will all get on code if there is a threat to the fundamental status quo(The rich should be allowed to cook unopposed, black people should 'stay in their place'. Workplaces should be as authoritarian as possible, etc.)
 

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Sure is funny how communists always end up defending authoritarian regimes purely on "but the United States" grounds. Last time I checked Russian illegally invaded a sovereign nation, and said sovereign nation has the right to defend itself.
coli-capitalists be the main ones defending authoritarianism :rudy:
 

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The quote I responded to you mentioned Russia would fund any side in particular to promote division. I asked if you could find a single case (and I established the timeline all the way back to 2005 based on social media) where it's been proven black folks are taking money to sow dissention from Russia....Now are you saying you can't find 1? In damn near 20 years you can't find 1 case of this proven to be happening?
I apoligize,... i mistook what your point was....

I was replying to the topic and saying you wouldn't see paperwork because of standard procedure in these types of cases...

You asked me about Blacks arrested for Russian influence...

I responded saying I was speaking on the topic of these types of cases in general (wasn't confirming or denying previous black arrest)

Now I see you're just trying to say this is the first case?

I'm not arguing for or against that statement as I haven't done any research on specifically black arrests for this type of crime.
 

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Sounds like the harassment folks were going through in the 70s
Exactly. The same Russian collusion and infiltration claims were about the civil rights movement. 50 years later, where's the proof? You'd think with the internet and all the tools it provides to verify claims, black folks wouldn't fall for it, but from reading this thread, many here have. Putin is absolutely a gangster, yet every US president that has served concurrently with Putin has more innocent blood on their hands, has invaded more sovereign nations, and has interfered with more foreign elections. Black folks need to stop worrying about the bully across the ocean, and worry about the bully in their own household.

Lets be real. Removing Putin isn't going to make marijuana usage legal on a federal level. Its not going to remove Qualified immunity from cops. Its not going to remove Civil Asset Forfeiture. Its not going to provide cheaper and better healthcare. Nor will it make housing, college, gasoline, or food, less expensive.
 

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Liberals always side with fascists

Weimar Germany, Falangist Spain, Pinochet’s Chile etc etc

considering they slaughtered liberals in those places.

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last florida brehs that got treated like this were just some dusty hoteps who tried to get money from a lying arab and the FBI acted like they busted the next big threat to america.
 

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considering they slaughtered liberals in those places.

charliemurphy-wrong.gif

You simply don’t understand or know the history.

Liberals always conceded/got fascists into power because unlike communists/socialists, they pledged to uphold the existing economic class system and not to redistribute to the masses.

Then, after fascists got into power, they betray or co-opt liberals.

You see that replaying in the United States today. Example:



US Democrats still cut deals and desire a “strong Republican Party” despite that party being beholden to fascist elements since Ronald Reagan.

Anyway, don’t say I didn’t warn y’all


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Russia has its hands in all kinds of movements. Putin does the same in Russia, even going so far as to bankroll the opposition, effectively controlling it. this is nothing new anyway…it’s just due to social media the sphere of influence has grown considerably.

As a leftist, I find the Russia defense appalling. They are engaging in textbook imperialism and it’s okay because…america bad, I guess? Both sides are clearly in the wrong. The only people socialists should support are the innocent people embroiled in this proxy war.
There are communists and then there are tankies. Sure, communists have always been watched, less these days, but being a tankie will always get you watched and it's just dumb as hell. All of the communists that I know would never support Russia, at all, in fact, if you see that, it's primally coming from a dumbass who is either an accelerationist (dumb), tanky (dumb), or someone that wants to see western civilization fall (also dumb but a bit more complex).

I definitely wouldn't put active targeting past DeSantis, he is conniving like that, a really dangerous individual, if it comes down to it, it's important that Trump wins over him, but I'm sure he will run again. Honestly, if Desantis ever becomes president and they have the House and Senate, I would strongly advise people secure dual citizenship, as if I don't already do that, but that exact scenario would be a red alert.
 

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You simply don’t understand or know the history.

Liberals always conceded/got fascists into power because unlike communists/socialists, they pledged to uphold the existing economic class system and not to redistribute to the masses.

Then, after fascists got into power, they betray or co-opt liberals.

You see that replaying in the United States today. Example:



US Democrats still cut deals and desire a “strong Republican Party” despite that party being beholden to fascist elements since Ronald Reagan.

Anyway, don’t say I didn’t warn y’all


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if your use of liberal = neoliberal:patrice: i'm inclined to sort of agree since fascist come into power with populist ideas they never follow through with.
 
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