Black enrollment is waning at many elite colleges after affirmative action ban

[JT-Money]

I had to reevaluate the whole college experience after working at Morehouse.

The traditional made it clear they dont want us their, young brehs coming up need to think clearly about their post secondary choices.

I only need to look at my own family to see college isn't the ultimate solution

The white collar job apocalypse is gonna make the choice for them.

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[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I got nothin

Fixed it for you big dog

 

[HarlemHottie]

Elementary school.

3rd grade is the most critical year in determining a child's success in school.

Taking college level courses while still in hs (ex. National Education Equity Lab)

Taking SAT prep courses to increase math & reading scores on that standardized test

Math camps, summer programs on college campuses, upward bound, debate clubs, internships, civic engagement

Preparing for admissions interviews like your life depends on it

I just want to see us hover around 10% to 15% of overall enrollment at the Ivy+ Schools

So we're talking about an FBA- focused A Better Chance or Prep for Prep? 1. We'll need lawyers to defend it. Or, we'll keep it on the low as long as we can in this current era. Consider this Jim Crow and plan accordingly.

2. I don't think we can do it at scale at this time. How can we break that huge immediate task into bite sized pieces? Should we direct our efforts in certain locales first, ie, rural. suburban vs urban?

Either way has its fundraising benefits. If we start rural, we'll see huge gains almost immediately bc they're severely underserved. We'll find the diamonds in the rough and spike up quickly- huge fundraising selling point. If we start urban, we can use the crutch of local services to help us along funding-wise.

 

[BlackJesus]

Go earn a spot then, nikka Surely if 4 and 5 star athletes are being recruited out the hood, those same hoods should be producing 4 and 5 star academia students that these universities can recruit as well. Or is that not possible without Affirmative Action, you interalized-racists, you?

One thing we’re really not talking about that we should be talking about is how we are not really adequately preparing our kids to excel in college and how their getting lower reading and math scores consistently.

If half of black high school kids read at a 6-7th grade level, we need to ask ourselves what WE are not doing about this.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

One thing we’re really not talking about that we should be talking about is how we are not really adequately preparing our kids to excel in college and how their getting lower reading and math scores consistently.

If half of black high school kids read at a 6-7th grade level, we need to ask ourselves what WE are not doing about this.

Immigrants aren’t geniuses. What they understand is you only get good at anything with practice. The problem is a lot of times the little nikkax are getting practice at shyt that probably won’t help them.

 

[HarlemHottie]

When I was in 3rd grade my teacher told me I could be president

When I showed up to 1st grade reading the NYT, my old school black teacher asked my mother what I was doing there. My mother replied that she wanted me to know my ppl. My teacher, Ms Morris- who I saw in the 2010's and updated on how good my life had gone- sat me in the back of the classroom and gave me specialized tasks. I still ended up fighting lil hood chicks at 3 o clock. I went to public school 1-2 grade and TAG 5-6 grades. Catholic school those missing years and then private school. I was raised by a single mom* in Section 8.

We can do this, solo dolo.

Oh! Wait! I have another idea. Homeschoolers buy learning modules when they can't teach the subject themselves. Could we possibly put together the 'proper' modules, already freely available on the internet, and at least get them up to speed? All they need is a parent who knows about it and a little intellectual curiosity on the part of the child. We'd be scraping off the recently forgotten, lost in the hood, cream of the crop, but gains are gains and they look good for future fundraising. It could be formulated as weekend courses, adjusted per child, etc. We could have it organized by city where they check in with somebody (a teacher volunteering?) and maybe even do little standardized testing (lil PSAE type shyt).

*married but separated, they're kinda dating now or something, it's weird, pls dont ask me about it, again, it's weird

 

[Bunchy Carter]

You're just rationalizing discrimination. Black students shouldn't be confined to any *one* lane, they should be able to attend *any* institution in this country and have the same shot as everyone else. Using HBCUs as an excuse for exclusion is nasty.

FBAs created HBCUs because of White Supremacy (Discrimination), and FBAs wanted to educate ourselves.

FBAs are not the ones who are upset over the declining enrollment number of Black students at these PWIs; the Black students who are upset are Non-FBAs.

Like I said before about you and other c00ns, you and your fellow c00ns are really mad because you are losing access to your Non-Black coochie.

Anything that pushes you away from that access to Non-Black coochie, you will run a 100-yard dash barefoot on hot coals to fight against it so you can be that token negro at these PWIs, so these Non-Black women will see you as the "cool Black guy," even though you're a clown, and will give you some wet dog-smelling coochie.

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When she took off that wet suit.

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[Pull Up the Roots]

Which is a high high high amount of black kids in America . So yes THAT is the disaster. Y’all sitting here worried about a small minority and calling it a disaster. That’s ludicrous.


If more kids at these lower levels were just as prepared as the white and Asian kids our numbers at those schools would skyrocket

Our numbers are falling because it’s a true reflection of where we’re at in America educationally .Artificially pumping these numbers would do nothing for the black community ..How do I know this ? Look at the last 30 years

These elite schools want the next world renowned biologists,economists, and scientists graduating from their schools.The only color that matters is green .
They’re not intentionally throwing black applications in the bushes . If we really still thinking that we’re still lost


I did provide an answer ..it’s called fixing the foundation of our community but that doesn’t put enough blame on other groups so ppl
Don’t wanna face it

You gotta be kidding me with this, especially that line in bold. You're acting like we all start from the same place. We don't. And that's the whole point.

You can't talk about being "prepared" while ignoring how the system decides *who* gets the resources to prepare in the first place. Black students are coming out of schools that have been underfunded for decades, while wealthier, white/Asian districts get everything they need to produce those "prepared" students you're comparing them to.

FBAs created HBCUs because of White Supremacy (Discrimination), and FBAs wanted to educate ourselves.

FBAs are not the ones who are upset over the declining enrollment number of Black students at these PWIs; the Black students who are upset are Non-FBAs.

Like I said before about you and other c00ns, you and your fellow c00ns are really mad because you are losing access to your Non-Black coochie.

Anything that pushes you away from that access to Non-Black coochie, you will run a 100-yard dash barefoot on hot coals to fight against it so you can be that token negro at these PWIs, so these Non-Black women will see you as the "cool Black guy," even though you're a clown, and will give you some wet dog-smelling coochie.

This poster, @Pull Up the Roots, has an Asian porn fetish; he's against anything that causes separation from his Asian coochie:

That response just proves my point. You're defending the very systems that forced us to build HBCUs in the first place. You're twisting something born from exclusion into a justification *for* exclusion. All you're doing here is arguing in favor of segregation and elimination of opportunities for Black people. At this point, you're no better than the average racist.

The funny thing here is that your claim about who's "upset" is just made-up nonsense you can't back up with a shred of evidence. You can't back up any of the blanket assumptions you're making. All you have are narratives, not facts. You have no data, no sourcing, not even basic logic behind your statements. And that's what makes you such a joke.

 

[ORDER_66]

Go to trade schools....

 

[Mister Terrific]

Damn bothsiders doing bootstrap arguments and arguing for separate but equal discrimination

 

[Bunchy Carter]

You gotta be kidding me with this, especially that line in bold. You're acting like we all start from the same place. We don't. And that's the whole point.

You can't talk about being "prepared" while ignoring how the system decides *who* gets the resources to prepare in the first place. Black students are coming out of schools that have been underfunded for decades, while wealthier, white/Asian districts get everything they need to produce those "prepared" students you're comparing them to.


That response just proves my point. You're defending the very systems that forced us to build HBCUs in the first place. You're twisting something born from exclusion into a justification *for* exclusion. All you're doing here is arguing in favor of segregation and elimination of opportunities for Black people. At this point, you're no better than the average racist.

The funny thing here is that your claim about who's "upset" is just made-up nonsense you can't back up with a shred of evidence. You can't back up any of the blanket assumptions you're making. All you have are narratives, not facts. You have no data, no sourcing, not even basic logic behind your statements. And that's what makes you such a joke.

What college did you graduate from?

My response when I said "FBAs are not the ones who are upset over the declining enrollment number of Black students at these PWIs; the Black students who are upset are Non-FBAs," is true.

Non-FBAs do not want to go to school with FBAs, that is why they are upset FBAs do not care about this. To prove my point, Non-FBAs create Non-FBA groups, and separate themselves from FBAs, while attending HBCUs.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

What college did you graduate from?

What does this have to do with my wanting Black people to be treated fairly? And I didn't go to college. I took up a trade (HVAC/R) instead.

 

[The_Truth]

Smart dumb ni66as everywhere!

 

[Bunchy Carter]

What does this have to do with my wanting Black people to be treated fairly? And I didn't go to college. I took up a trade (HVAC/R) instead.

Because you do not know what you are talking about.

Research shows that Black students are more likely to earn their bachelor’s degrees at HBCUs than Black students at other schools. In my professional working experience, I have met multiple Black coworkers, Black professionals at conferences, etc. who overwhelmingly said they wished they had gone to and graduated from an HBCU.

Black students are 40% more likely to earn their bachelor’s degrees at HBCUs than Black students at other schools.

Black Students Are 40% More Likely to Earn Degrees at HBCUs—Here's Why

Us FBAs have HBCUs we can attend. If FBAs decide to go to a PWI, we can do so also. If an FBA would like to forgo college and go to a trade school, we can do that also.

 

[CopiousX]

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Ok, we see what the problem is. The Asians helped Caucasians remove Affirmative action, PWI enrollment of Black people is down, while a bit up for Asians.

So, does anyone have any solutions for this? Pointing fingers at each other will not resolve this, and this play against us occured in June 2023.

A crowdsourced to booster program to raise the SAT, ACT , and gpa scores of the black elite.

Ok, let's stop this BS right now. A person like that is not getting into college at all, let alone a prestigious one. So we are not talking about our people who are ill-prepared for any sort of continual education; we are talking about our people who are prepared but are not making it to the schools they desire to attend.

Your response just exposed your own ignorance on this issue, and was not any solution to the problem. You come across sounding like the Asians & Caucasians that stated we do not deserve to be at those schools

I agree with you that the target demographic of his comment was incorrect.


But i think the diagnosis was accurate. The fact of the matter is that our best of the best are not prepared to compete on pure metrics with asian applicants. Hell, even white people are losing there too and must lean on legacy admissions. Perhaps a booster program is needed to get them the little bump they need?



This is one of the few instances where I don't think the issue is pure discrimination at the end destination of harvard,

Spoiler: structural issue of black scholars

But more so racism earlier on with poorly funded schools, antagonistic teachers, and fewer financial/informational resources available at the family level to our brightest minds in highschool . These students already doing phenomenally despite their disadvantages. I think all they need is a little bit of a structural push to lap the asians and whites.

In asian societies

Spoiler: How asians overachieve...

they have the concept of the cram school whose function is identical to the booster program i'm envisioning.

Chinese example....






Japanese example...



Korean example....





The asians acknowledge that the public school system is not enough. So they supplement it. I don't think this is impossible for our scholars to do If we reallocatedcollevtive black resources.

For example we already have booster programs for black football elites. They go above and beyond what their high school team is teaching them to create stars on college campuses. These aren't the same as after school practice , But are targeted programs for our best athletes. I don't see why this can't be done for general education for our elite.

I don't think we have an organized system like this for our black scholars en massse. I don't think a simple after school program from your local public school is enough, since our asian peers have the more intensive cram school concept. We have a few interventions like the United negro college fund , But it focuses more on the very last step a funding them into college. Unfortunately it can only qualify them for schools which their test scores get them into. But if unca or naacp funded intermediary institutions that these students could attend after their highschool classes, They would be functionally identical to the systems asians have.


I could even envision outreach from HBCUs to the highest achieving high school students. Not to get them as students for their hbcu institutions, but to support them for the ivies with intense college level coursework and proffesor level support before they even apply to a Harvard or cornell