Black Feminism

[AAKing23]

examples? names? I consider bell hooks as the face of the modern movement and none of what you said applies to her. she's anti white male racism first and foremost while pointing out how some of the the racist white male ideology has trickled down and affected some black men's outlook on black women. the goal, for her at least is to make black men aware of this, not to bash them or act like black women are superior

like I said, a lot of ya'll are confusing bitter women writing angry blog posts with actual intellectuals.

Like I said I do not have a problem with those sistas who are actually intelligent about how they go about it. Sistas who realize that the black man isn't trying to oppress them and that white supremacy is the ultimate culprit.

I don't know if I would necessarily call that feminism tho.


But unfortunately that's not what black feminism of today is majorly associated with. It's associated with the bitter man hating women who wanna use the guise of black feminism to hide their real intentions and that is to rise against black men.: manny:


That's why you have these women out here using section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps that's designed to keep the man out the house and further contributes to the constant degradation of the black community resulting in single parent homes.

 

[Drew Wonder]

Like I said I do not have a problem with those sistas who are actually intelligent about how they go about it. Sistas who realize that the black man isn't trying to oppress them and that white supremacy is the ultimate culprit.

I don't know if I would necessarily call that feminism tho.


But unfortunately that's not what black feminism of today is majorly associated with. It's associated with the bitter man hating women who wanna use the guise of black feminism to hide their real intentions and that is to rise against black men.: manny:


That's why you have these women out here using section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps that's designed to keep the man out the house and further contributes to the constant degradation of the black community resulting in single parent homes.

true, and that's the problem and point of this thread, to clear up the misconception

 

[Mowgli]

Tariq nasheed hit the nail on the head when he said black feminists and hoodrats are destructive to the community and are government funded. Epic statement.

 

[Drew Wonder]

Like I said I do not have a problem with those sistas who are actually intelligent about how they go about it. Sistas who realize that the black man isn't trying to oppress them and that white supremacy is the ultimate culprit.

I don't know if I would necessarily call that feminism tho.

It IS black feminism bruh, true black feminism. that's what I'm trying to tell ya'll

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

You didnt answer my question, so Ill ask it again, what exactly has black feminism done help the plight of black women? Marcus Garvey did more to let black people know about the injustices of whites than the entire feminist movement. J.A. Rogers did more to let black people know their true history and take pride in their race than the feminist movement.

So I'll ask again, what tangible benefit does the black feminist movement bring to the table?

wait, have you read any literature that would be deemed as black feminist literature? i don't see the point of arguing about which one did more help if people aren't even aware of the true nature of black feminism...

 

[Drew Wonder]

Tariq nasheed hit the nail on the head when he said black feminists and hoodrats are destructive to the community and are government funded. Epic statement.

I like Tariq, but he was off-base. again, he's confusing bitter black women with a platform with actual Academic intellectuals. I guarantee he'd have a different outlook on black feminism if he read the works of someone like bell hooks

 

[DaChampIsHere]

nikkas really can't read.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Like I said I do not have a problem with those sistas who are actually intelligent about how they go about it. Sistas who realize that the black man isn't trying to oppress them and that white supremacy is the ultimate culprit.

I don't know if I would necessarily call that feminism tho.


But unfortunately that's not what black feminism of today is majorly associated with. It's associated with the bitter man hating women who wanna use the guise of black feminism to hide their real intentions and that is to rise against black men.: manny:


That's why you have these women out here using section 8 housing, welfare and food stamps that's designed to keep the man out the house and further contributes to the constant degradation of the black community resulting in single parent homes.

that isn't black feminism!

jesus, stop associating those two things together. it's like someone tells you that's not what it is and yet you keep trying to associate the two together. you're talking about what people THINK or BELIEVE it is, not what it actually is. the fact we've already established that it's not that, please stop going backwards in the discussion talking about what people think it is. it's not that...

 

[Drew Wonder]

You didnt answer my question, so Ill ask it again, what exactly has black feminism done help the plight of black women? Marcus Garvey did more to let black people know about the injustices of whites than the entire feminist movement. J.A. Rogers did more to let black people know their true history and take pride in their race than the feminist movement.

So I'll ask again, what tangible benefit does the black feminist movement bring to the table?

I did answer your questions. the work of black feminists like Angela Davis, bell hooks, etc has brought awareness to examples of modern racism, discrimination and social conditioning. Dudes like Garvey and DuBois did their thing in a time where racism was blatant. someone like bell hooks points out examples of modern racism that it was more subtle and easier to ignore. did she have as big of an impact as people like Garvey? no, but she had an impact nonetheless and to dismiss people like her as counterproductive to the overall movement is completely ignorant

once again, the ultimate goal of true black feminists is to fight the racist, white male patriarchy, just like Garvey, just like Malcolm, etc. they're part of the same struggle. again, I encourage you to actually READ academic works by angela davis, bell hooks, etc and you'll see it's way beyond some woman making a dumbass list about things they hate about black men

 

[Mowgli]

I like Tariq, but he was off-base. again, he's confusing bitter black women with a platform with actual Academic intellectuals. I guarantee he'd have a different outlook on black feminism if he read the works of someone like bell hooks

I dont think so. He seemed to really have a clear definition of who he was talking about.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

I dont think so. He seemed to really have a clear definition of who he was talking about.

have you read any works by black feminists or are you purely going off of what one man has said about it? because, even though i haven't heard what tariq has said about it, your encapsulation of his idea still associates hoodrats with feminism which is still obviously wrong. so, we're back to square one again. people are still roping the two together when they have nothing to do with each other and have no similar characteristics aside from the fact that black women are involved in both...

 

[Mowgli]

have you read any works by black feminists or are you purely going off of what one man has said about it? because, even though i haven't heard what tariq has said about it, your encapsulation of his idea still associates hoodrats with feminism which is still obviously wrong. so, we're back to square one again. people are still roping the two together when they have nothing to do with each other and have no similar characteristics aside from the fact that black women are involved in both...

Yea i have and ive dated black feminists as well. We are still human beings and have motivations for delving into certain types of literature. You cannot become words in a book as easy as you think. You can read every feminist book under the sun and still act in a manner that isnt constructive to the black community but instead destructive. This is also going to play a part in their relationship dynamics with men.

I think you dont understanding. No one is saying that hoodrats and feminists are the same. We're saying they are 2 destructive elements in the black community. Like thugs and fakkits.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

There are a lot of misconceptions about what this movement actually represents.

what does "black feminism" actually represent though? if it was really about helping the black community there would have been no need to detach from the civil rights movement and join the feminist party in the first place

 

[Drew Wonder]

what does "black feminism" actually represent though? if it was really about helping the black community there would have been no need to detach from the civil rights movement and join the feminist party in the first place

like I said, it represents a fight against white male patriarchy. where it differs from the more mainstream civil rights movement is that there's also an emphasis of the sexist aspects of white male patriarchy. it sheds light on how that's affected both black men and women. and black feminism is completely different than white feminism which doesn't really focus on white privilege or racism. that's why black feminists differentiate themselves from mainstream feminism

 

[Mowgli]

Black men and black women in america have been hand in hand in struggle since slavery and the white man put forth efforts to give the black woman power over the black male. The black man is not oppressing the black woman or acting in a way to put her on an unequal footing to him financially, politically or socially. Now, hoodrats often face struggle being treated equal to regular women because of their ignorantly flamboyant attitudes but outside of that, we arent the ones holding black women back. We arent paying them less money, we arent denying them access to politics and we arent treating them like less how they act in public, so i dont see the vision of a black feminist. A feminist is a feminist, fukk is a black feminist. The majority of women who identify as black feminist are lesbians and a lot of times these women are just trying to break away from the the natural relationship dynamics that exist in the world. Black feminists to me, want to be apart of the white power structure which is obviously, against black people which is why black feminists are so quick to throw black men under the bus in the white media.