Black parents are the only parents I see doing this kind of punishment.

[Drummage_EL]

What a coincidence.
Interestingly enough, black people are the only people I see being told how to discipline their children.
Somehow, black parents have become the face of child and domestic violence.
Seems that if you're not a gang banging sperm donor or a single mother on welfare, you're an unfit parent now.
Sad but not surprising.
Mental and political warfare takes on many faces. Whatever gets the job done I suppose.

fukk outta here with that tinfoil hat conspiracy theory shyt.

 

[AntiVenom]

Yeah publicly humiliating your own child is the best way to set them straight. Scar them for life and then turn around and wonder why they put your ass in a nursing home when the roles are reversed.

That shyt is child abuse. Not to most extreme kind of child abuse but child abuse all the same.

 

[Couth]

So embarrassing your kid as a punishment is a big deal now and only black people do it? kden.


Only difference between white discipline and black discipline? White people are fake. They like to keep up appearances and pretend they only punish their children with stern discussions and allowance cuts. In reality white people are just as psycho as black people when it comes to punish their kids. They just hide it like I said.

And I notice white people tend to be a lot more vindictive with their punishments too. A black parent will whip your ass and then ten minutes later you guys will be cool laughing and having a good time. White parents hold grudges and like systematically disrespect their children over the smallest shyt. I knew a white girl in high school and her parents treated her like she was a redheaded step kid just because she was a normal rebellious teen. Pretty sure that had a bigger effect on her mentally then this ever could.

 

[Matt504]

So embarrassing your kid as a punishment is a big deal now and only black people do it? kden.

Embarrassment as a punishment is a big deal no matter what race of people does it and it does more harm than good.

 

[kevm3]

 

[Zero]

Seeing that fukks me up because I'm not sure if the kid is bad as hell or if there's something wrong with them.

Saw this situation in a Farm Fresh a few months back in the chip aisle like

Lil man was just crunching up the bags at the bottom having a good old time while the mother just timidly went along with it.


Luckily it was the plain Lays that I don't eat

 

[Mowgli]

So how many of you coli members who defend athletes abusing their children co-sign this?

Yea everyone else beats their kids behind closed door s

 

[Mowgli]

Embarrassment as a punishment is a big deal no matter what race of people does it and it does more harm than good.

Do you have kids.

 

[Mowgli]

So how many of you coli members who defend athletes abusing their children co-sign this?

How many kids do you have

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

In the title of this thread I should've put the word punishment in quotation marks because I don't view this as being true punishment for children.

You don't even have kids to punish. You're opinion on the matter is null and void.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Yeah publicly humiliating your own child is the best way to set them straight. Scar them for life and then turn around and wonder why they put your ass in a nursing home when the roles are reversed.

That shyt is child abuse. Not to most extreme kind of child abuse but child abuse all the same.

Another child free person telling parents how they are raising their kids is wrong. fukking dope!

 

[mrken12]

Hey! It's another one of those "I want to generalize black people but yet still pretend like I'm black" threads.

 

[Matt504]

Do you have kids.

No, but these professionals who happen to agree with me do have kids if that matters.

Gary Walters, a father of three and a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, says that when parents use these harsh methods, they may be drawn to the idea of a disciplinary “nuclear option,” but they are committing a form of emotional child abuse.

While it may kill the initial problem, its long-term consequences can be incredibly damaging, Mr. Walters says. He points to ample evidence from academic research that shows that when parents consistently use shaming as a punishment, these children grow up to be more depressed, anxious and less confident than children who aren’t subjected to such discipline.

Those negative effects are especially profound, experts say, because young kids don’t have the emotional maturity to process shame and humiliation in a healthy way.

Pre-teens, in particular, aren’t equipped to cope with such punishment, “so it’s overwhelming their defences,” says Dr. Marshall Korenblum, a father of five and the chief psychiatrist at the Hincks-Dellcrest Centre, a mental health centre for children and families in Toronto. “So, absolutely, for a pre-teen I think it is cruel and unusual punishment.”

Mr. Korenblum doesn’t think shame is an effective deterrent or teaching tool for teenagers, even though they are more cognitively able to handle it. “You would say that social things matter more to teenagers – therefore you’re kind of getting them where it hurts – but I would still say that the main message you’re giving is that it’s okay to not respect somebody else,” he said.

Such disciplinary techniques can also hurt the parent-child relationship. Resentment is a common by-product of humiliation because public shame has such a “chilling” effect on a child, said Mr. Walters.

In addition to poisoning the family unit, shame begets shame, the experts say. Mr. Walters mentioned that there is nascent research looking at whether the publicly shamed boys go on to become the men who post hurtful, degrading comments and photos of exes on the Internet.

If parents are embarrassed by their misbehaving kids, they aren’t necessarily thinking about child development. They are more likely thinking about the judgmental stares coming from the strangers around them – parenting culture can be disparaging, especially since children are seen as extensions of the parents, said Mr. Korenblum.

For some stressed and frustrated parents, shaming may feel like the only remaining option. At least that is the defence the mother of the 10-year-old Australian boy took when explaining her punishing tactic. The unidentified mother of three said that she had tried everything, including visits to courthouses and prison cells, chats with police and a trip to a youth detention centre, in what she felt was becoming an increasingly futile attempt to deter her son from a life of crime.

Lianne Castelino, a mother of three and co-founder of the parenting blog Where Parents Talk, says she feels for this mother. “I think there is a lot of grey area in parenting these days. It’s really not as black-and-white, cut-and-dried as we’d like it to be,” said Ms. Castelino.

She says she’s not a proponent of shaming, but she does think today’s parents have a “crisis of confidence and conscience” when it comes to discipline. Rather than trusting their instincts, people rely more on how others parent, feeding the fallacy that there is one right way for a parent to punish. Instead, Ms. Castelino thinks parents should exercise their own judgment when deciding on a punishment, and then to stick to their guns once they implement it.



The bottom line for experts is that there is an important distinction between humiliation and disapproval: It’s healthy for parents to object to misbehaviour and to explain that it results in bad consequences, but humiliation is about attacking the child’s self-esteem, and that is not okay, said Mr. Walters.

“I believe a punishment should fit the crime, so to speak,” said Mr. Korenblum. “So if you’ve been rude to a teacher, the punishment would be to apologize to the teacher. If you have stolen something, then return the item and again apologize … I don’t see how wearing a public sign deals with the issue.”`

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...ing-your-child-a-form-of-abuse/article592125/

Parents and teachers who try to make their kids behave by subjecting them to humiliating punishments are taking the wrong approach to discipline, experts say.

Just this month, a Florida teacher was suspended for making tardy students wear a wide-brimmed dog collar dubbed the "cone of shame." And parents in Minnesota who were disappointed with their daughter's grades were arrested after they shaved the 12-year old girl's head and forced her to wear a diaper and run around outside.

While these cases are certainly extreme, experts say that any punishment that shames or embarrasses a child is not an effective way to discipline youngsters, and may cause long-term psychological damage.

"The research is pretty clear that it's never appropriate to shame a child, or to make a child feel degraded or diminished," said Andy Grogan-Kaylor, an associate professor of social work at the University of Michigan. Such punishments can lead to "all kinds of problems in the future," Grogan-Kaylor said, including increased anxiety, depression and aggression.

Malicious punishments can also damage a parent's relationship with their child, and lead to a cycle of bad behavior, experts say.

Instead, parents should use other discipline strategies, such as setting clear rules for kids and taking away privileges. Overall, parents should aim to create a supporting environment for their child.

"Positive things have a much more powerful effect on shaping behavior than any punishment," Grogan-Kaylor said.

Damaging punishments

Out-of-the norm punishments can have social repercussions for children, said Jennifer Lansford, a research professor at Duke Univesity's Center for Child and Family Policy. An odd punishment can make a child stand out, and provoke bullying, Lansford said.

In addition, children evaluate their own experiences in the context of what they see their peers experiencing, Lansford said. If children are disciplined in ways that are not condoned by society, "it can lead children to perceive they are personally rejected by their parents," Lansford said.

Humiliating punishments can also disconnect parents from their children, making kids less likely to want to behave and do what their parents say, said Katharine Kersey, a professor of early childhood education at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Va., and author of the upcoming book "101 Principles for Positive Guidance with Young Children" (Allyn & Bacon, August 2012).

"Each time we [embarrass children with a punishment] we pay a price, and we drive them away from us, and we lose our ability to be a role model for them," Kersey said.

"When you disconnect from a child, he no longer wants to please you, he no longer wants to be like you. You've lost your power of influence over him," Kersey said.

Children who are punished in these ways usually still commit the behavior, but do it behind their parents' backs, Kersey said.

http://m.livescience.com/20314-embarrassing-punishments-children-discipline.html

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

No,

Thats all that really matters. I'm just as much a professional as they are when it comes to raising kids. I have 2. Come back when you actually have children to discipline.

 

[ignorethis]

No, but these professionals who happen to agree with me do have kids if that matters.



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...ing-your-child-a-form-of-abuse/article592125/





http://m.livescience.com/20314-embarrassing-punishments-children-discipline.html

Most psychology is theory, not fact.