Black People need to dead this "P.O.C./Intersectionality" bullsh1t.

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The entire Civil Rights Movement ignored the collective struggle of Black women as a group.
They're playing catch up.
I already pointed this out, but what group is the greatest killer of Black women?
And no, Black women and men's problems in the Western world are not the same. Do you know any Black women in real life?

theyre playing catchup but they outpace black men in education and new business ownership

the greatest killer of black women is heart disease

black men kill other black men at rates far higher than black men kill black women. I hate to have to use that argument though...

within the black community, I agree that black men and black women have different issues. but within white society, our biggest obstacles are the fukking same.
 

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People have to choose what to focus on. Despite what some say, you have to choose which issues to tackle. Intersectionality splinters identity and separates Black men, women, gay, immigrant, poor, etc into separate movements.
Well said.

That's why I said if we're going to make any upward strides as a collective the intersectionality angle (not to say it should be completely obscured and shouldn't be recognized) has got to go. It's got to be black first before anything.
 

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I was around a lot of fellow black co workers one time and I was like im more of a Malcolm X kind of guy than Martin and these fools was :whoa: no, no... martin was all about all of us white and blacks coming together Malcolm was more of being distance...

I only talk to 3 blacks after that at work.. I couldn't trust the rest of these nikkas
Alot of conditioning has been done to make Malcolm X look like the bad guy when he was the furthest thing from that.
 

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theyre playing catchup but they outpace black men in education and new business ownership

the greatest killer of black women is heart disease

black men kill other black men at rates far higher than black men kill black women. I hate to have to use that argument though...

within the black community, I agree that black men and black women have different issues. but within white society, our biggest obstacles are the fukking same.
You're playing fast and loose with facts to skew toward your viewpoint.
They outpace Black men in education and new business ownership because more of them go to school and more of them start businesses, what does that have to do with issues surrounding intersectionality? There are almost no barriers to going to college in this day and age, its an overall failure of choice that more Black men don't go to school and start business.
Your second point has nothing to do with what I said. I'm referring to Black male violence against Black females, because that's important within the community.
Your third point is partially correct, yes, we share goals within White society, that doesn't mean we ignore the intersection of issues within our own community, because that is always disastrous in the end.
 

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Well said.

That's why I said if we're going to make any upward strides as a collective the intersectionality angle (not to say it should be completely obscured and shouldn't be recognized) has got to go. It's got to be black first before anything.
We did that bullshyt from about 1940-1980 and look where we are now.
 

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Alot of conditioning has been done to make Malcolm X look like the bad guy when he was the furthest thing from that.
There wasn't much difference between Malcolm and Martin at least on the political spectrum.
Martin was a Marxist who was ready to bring about massive union protests that would have shaken US business to the core.
Malcolm was certainly deeply on the Left with similiar goals and vision.
People have combined Malcolm X's image with Eldridge Cleaver's and have made him far more unpredictably extremist than he was.
 

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OP, if intersectionality is bullshyt then by default you are agreeing the poor blacks face the same issues as middle class and rich blacks. And therefore, you are also agreeing that black people should pull themselves up from their own boot straps. After all, look at all the blacks doing well in this country.
Of course you won't support this because we all know what this is about:yawn:
 

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You're an idiot.
No, I'm a Black male college student from a working class family, with brothers who are also college students, first-and second cousins who are college students, and dozens of friends and family that are attending or graduated college.
My grandmother and grandfather both graduated college in the 1940s.
 

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I've never heard any Native American man, woman or child so racism is over :heh:
And I know I know more Natives than most on this thread.
The same said for any poor Latino, especially Afro-Latinos, they know all about racism.
The only time you hear about a "lack" of racism is with some Asian groups, because they're placed in the "model minority" category, but again, if you're not talking to White-washed Asians, you'll find just as many, if not more, grievances.
Half of this thread is anecdotal evidence coming from people who hang around the wrong kind of people of colour. Instead of hanging around the dumbasses at your minimum wage job, start talking to the academics, the activists, the community leaders, the immigrants who face insurmountable odds, and others.
They have dramatically different stories to tell :ufdup:
like i said i think it was cacs just false claiming native
 

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Only ones that irk me the most are third wave feminism AKA white feminism and to some degree with the LGBT community. Not because I'm homophobic/transphobic. Not that at all but when I hear them screaming OUR STRUGGLES ARE THE same I want to tell them FOH :camby:
It's super offensive to equate the black struggle to LGBT when they are not the same.

My struggle is not the same as some white guy with mental illness who has fake t*ts and wears dresses.
 

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