policy like affirmative action huh
lol
na
you have a very pedestrian understanding of how money works c00n
Black people...search your feelings. Do we think reparations can be effectively fought for in 2020?
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lol
na
you have a very pedestrian understanding of how money works c00n
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
fukk that mindset...
You ask for crumbs you will be left starving...Demand the whole loaf and you might get a piece...
We gotta keep our foot on their neck at all times in regards to reparations...
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
You can demand everything you want, don’t mean you’re getting it. Word to petulant 2 years olds across the globe.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
But if you demand nothing that means you most likely won't get it. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that.
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
The problem is reparations just aren't politically viable because the only people who are going to talk about them are the ones who want them. Those who don't, can completely ignore the topic and face no political retribution.
first and foremost i agree with pushing for reparations to be on the agenda. there needs to be a national discussion about it regardless of feasibility. this is how ideas turn into policy, although it will admittedly take time. the goal for 2020 should be forcing candidates to take a stand on the topic. not some "i'll think about it" or "interesting idea" or "sounds good". they need to be boxed in on a yes or no, without preconditions.
what reparations would actually look like, how they would be implemented, who qualifies and how you verify the qualifications are the details that have to be ironed out. this is going to take more time than a few months. and it's going to get very ugly imo. specifically when people start finding out their real lineage, folks getting upset about receiving their fair share, and how this impacts other race related benefit programs currently in place.
there are some very naive takes on what type of support republicans would have for reparations. their base has shifted so far to the right i don't see how they can support reparations without alienating the voters who mean the most to them. keep in mind these are people who absolutley despise any sort of race related bias in favor of black people. the republican platform has been dedicated to removing all race related benefits for a long time. to think if we vote for them they will support reparations is dangerously naive and ignores their past 30 years of race related precedent. if you think the dems provide nothing but lip service i can guarantee it would pale in comparison to what the republicans would offer.
will dems support reparations? i think so, but i don't know how vigorously they will push for it. they know black people are not only an important part of their platform, but there is more black representation in the democratic party than anywhere else. those black people are going to have push, pressure, and make people feel uncomfortable to move this forward. i need to see more of the discussion and reaction from the left to get a feel for how strong their support will be.
the hard part is going to be getting black people to have higher turnout than our historical numbers show, in both national and local elections. it's the only way to put the pressure on and get the politicians we want in office. with the don't vote brigade, voter suppression tactics, and outside influencers this is going to be a monumental challenge. many people don't understand what it took to get the cra passed. i think it will take at least that kind of effort.
so the question was can reparations be effectively fought for in 2020? this is the beginning, but i would temper our expectations and plan for a long fight. perhaps some referendums and groundwork can happen in the next 2 years, but that would be a good start. legislation takes a while and these types of solutions don't happen in a short period of time.
what reparations would actually look like, how they would be implemented, who qualifies and how you verify the qualifications are the details that have to be ironed out. this is going to take more time than a few months. and it's going to get very ugly imo. specifically when people start finding out their real lineage, folks getting upset about receiving their fair share, and how this impacts other race related benefit programs currently in place.
there are some very naive takes on what type of support republicans would have for reparations. their base has shifted so far to the right i don't see how they can support reparations without alienating the voters who mean the most to them. keep in mind these are people who absolutley despise any sort of race related bias in favor of black people. the republican platform has been dedicated to removing all race related benefits for a long time. to think if we vote for them they will support reparations is dangerously naive and ignores their past 30 years of race related precedent. if you think the dems provide nothing but lip service i can guarantee it would pale in comparison to what the republicans would offer.
will dems support reparations? i think so, but i don't know how vigorously they will push for it. they know black people are not only an important part of their platform, but there is more black representation in the democratic party than anywhere else. those black people are going to have push, pressure, and make people feel uncomfortable to move this forward. i need to see more of the discussion and reaction from the left to get a feel for how strong their support will be.
the hard part is going to be getting black people to have higher turnout than our historical numbers show, in both national and local elections. it's the only way to put the pressure on and get the politicians we want in office. with the don't vote brigade, voter suppression tactics, and outside influencers this is going to be a monumental challenge. many people don't understand what it took to get the cra passed. i think it will take at least that kind of effort.
so the question was can reparations be effectively fought for in 2020? this is the beginning, but i would temper our expectations and plan for a long fight. perhaps some referendums and groundwork can happen in the next 2 years, but that would be a good start. legislation takes a while and these types of solutions don't happen in a short period of time.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
Someone is going to pay a political price for it. We saw that in 2016. It can certainly happen again in 2020 and again in 2024.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
amirite
Policy like passing out homes and education to white folks.policy like affirmative action huh
lol
na
you have a very pedestrian understanding of how money works c00n
Redlining neighborhoods. Tax cuts for the rich. Gas, housing, food costs skyrocketing, infrastructure money. Healthcare cost, etc, etc.
These are all the things that created the “racial wealth gap”(which in itself is a misnomer considering the top 2% hold all the wealth in America anyway), therefore these are things that need to be addressed to fix the “racial wealth gap”
they still aint gonna build decent businesses in the hood
white folks still gone gentrify
fukk all that
just give me my check
3 trillion alone is 75K a person
“Gentrify” wouldn’t exist with some change to policy.
75K per person would do absolutely nothing if they continue to write policy that devalues your existence.
i said 3 trillion alone
reports say it could be up to 12
aka 300 a head
you can keep your silly policy
policy can be slithered around like affirmative action
or reduced like obamacare
this money is power tho
nikka you just want a checki said 3 trillion alone
reports say it could be up to 12
aka 300 a head
you can keep your silly policy
policy can be slithered around like affirmative action
or reduced like obamacare
this money is power tho
You just want “policy” when we both know damn well them cacs that write those policies will make it to where somehow, cacs benefit the most.nikka you just want a check
Like affirmative action.
Money is power in this country.
$100,000 check > policy