"Blacks Are Stealing History" Egypt, Sumer, China, Maya etc etc

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

really gotta find time to read all of this

 

[Everythingg]

we know they are black what we are saying is that they are not in any way connected to west africans. shyt how do you not fathom this concept

So what did you disagree with then? I said that the Egyptians, moors, and Israelites could all be different variations of black and you said no. Now you’re saying that the Egyptians are black just a different variation than the black west Africans. Been on some duck duck goose shyt the whole time only to come reiterate the point I originally made....

are cambodians ethnically connected to the vietnamese just because they are asian?

answer that question first, if you can't answer this question then you are not meant to be in this thread seeing as this is basis for the whole thread

You’ve been deflecting all thread and now want to make demands

My original point stands that the ancient Egyptians, Israelites and moors could all be different variations of black. You pretended to disagree only to end up acting as if this was your point all along

 

[Asante]

Your denial of how we’ve arrived to this point is either a result of embarrassment or lack of critical thinking/understanding of inference.

Seems like you’re mostly offended at being called a cac. Your disposition doesn’t help your case.

I’ve been called one too and laughed it off while understanding the need for vetting.

Any accusation of us hijacking african history is pure cac projection and nothing else.

ANY forum member who denies this history who is not a Hebrew Israelite is a fukking CAC. Im trying to tell y’all from my over a decade of experience learning this shyt that these whites have an online coalition where they pretend to be Black or “Afrocentric”, and their main goal is through that guise of acting black is to try to mislead uninformed Blacks down a path of white approved lies about our people’s story. This online coalition shyt is a million dollar industry paid for by major institutions like the Smithsonian. Websites like Historum (which is the largest history forum on the internet) is dedicated to maintaining this white racist narrative by screening and approving post, and banning people who make these arguments. Places like Egyptsearch were originally full of Dr. Clyde Winter like scholars, but had been invaded by the coalition that I pointed out, and now the website that was a haven for Afrocentric thought is now moderated by an open white supremacist pretending to be an “Afrocentric”.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

So what did you disagree with then? I said that the Egyptians, moors, and Israelites could all be different variations of black and you said no. Now you’re saying that the Egyptians are black just a different variation than the black west Africans. Been on some duck duck goose shyt the whole time only to come reiterate the point I originally made....


You’ve been deflecting all thread and now want to make demands

My original point stands that the ancient Egyptians, Israelites and moors could all be different variations of black. You pretended to disagree only to end up acting as if this was your point all along

I’m arguing with a child, bro if you can’t understand something as simple as this there’s no Need to talk at this point. Stay up

 

[Everythingg]

I’m arguing

Yea that’s what I don’t get. I said different variations of black people made up the moors, Israelites and Egyptians, you acted as if I was wrong, then ended the convo with saying that the Egyptians were a different variation of black people. And instead of explaining anything you tap out. It’s all good, I’m always up my guy

 

[thekyuke]

I would like to say that Egypt is African history, but we as decendents of West Africans don't have much relation to them. Egypt is still a historical marvel

Srsly? How could you misunderstand his post?
Really,nikka,do better!

 

[Nar-el]

Places like Egyptsearch was originally full of Clyde Winter like scholars, but had been invaded by the coalition that I pointed, and now the website that was a haven for Afrocentric thought is now moderated by an open white supremacist pretending to be an “Afrocentric”

Are you talking about that "lioness" poster That sight still has old members with great info. Clyde Winters is a little out there, like Runoko Rashidi

 

[Asante]

Are you talking about that "lioness" poster That sight still has old members with great info. Clyde Winters is a little out there, like Runoko Rashidi

I ain't even have to say it. That shyt is bonkers bra! "Lioness" started out literally as a troll to the Black people there, and now that white boy is a fukking moderator on what was supposed to be an Afrocentric space. You can't make this shyt up.

I actually rock with Clyde Winters. Clyde is the last relic from the original Yahoo message board that included the likes of famed author Robin Walker from which the Afrocentrism of Egyptsearch came from. These newer members were to Egyptsearch to detract from the hardcore truth that Clyde brings. That's why you notice in his threads where he claims that every civilization was Black he brings detailed evidence of a migratory narrative. This is something Europeans would never touch. because he's the telling the truth, and they know that his evidence damning. There tactic to dealing with him is basically ignoring him as much as possible.

Now he has had some blunders, and particularly with the haplogroup M1 and the Indian link. This is what allowed the haters to pounce and try to discredit all of his work, which is asinine considering how little of his argument rested on that claim.

 

[Asante]

Low self esteem? I'm fully Nigerian and have ancestors who were citizens of one of the greatest empires in African history (Benin Empire). There's no evidence of large numbers of Egyptians moving to that area and DNA samples show that West Africans are a different haplogroup than Northeast Africans. Africans are the most genetically and culturally diverse people in the world.

You can admire Egypt but don't erase individual African identity to fulfill a wet dream.

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So what do you have to say about this YORUBA PHD who specializes in highlighting the connection betweeen Kemet and Yoruba?

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Don't you feel dumb seeing a scholar at a level that you have never obtained completely shytting on your logical fallacy that attempts to make you an authority on African history simply because you were born there? That's the equivalent of a Boer claiming he knows more than on African history than Dr. Chancellor Williams for the same reason. He's Nigerian, and says that they came from Kemet. His credentials and knowledge are more than yours, and he sees to promote what African Americans are saying. You just delete your account, you damn Cac.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Again this is a purely American concept. The only cacs who even give a shyt or claim shyt like are white Americans. I promise you a cac from Italy, France, Russia absolutely does not care in that fashion And will big up themselves first before anything. Ffs You can’t even have an Irishman, Englishmen, or Scott in the same building lest a fight break out

Eeh that's not really true.

The significance of Greek civilization for the French intellectual, cultural, artistic and political tradition explicitly & considerably permeates those spheres, and Ancient Greeks are justly considered as their pioneers.

 

[Asante]

Eeh that's not really true.

The significance of Greek civilization for the French intellectual and political tradition explicitly & considerably permeates those spheres, and Ancient Greeks are justly considered as their pioneers.

Much like how the Ausarian culture of ancient Kemet is still the backbone of many African and even Diasporas.

Rulers Depicted as Giants

Notice how both the Kemetic pharaoh and Dahomey king are depicted as giant rulers, and have one hand sticking out while being served by smaller humans. More proof of this diffusion of people and culture from the Hapi Valley into interior regions of Africa is shown in the appearance of the ancient Kemetic spiritual system being shown in these other African cultures. The Osirian crock and flail were sported by the kings of inner Africa. Notice that the Dahomey king holds the traditional Osirion Crock while the ancient Kemetic figure holds the Flail. It's also note worthy...that the color scheme of the Dahomey (Nigeria) are not depicting "black skinned" people despite us knowing that these people were/are still melaninated "black" Africans. It's also worth noting how these little Damomey citizens are shaped almost identically (even pointy noses) to how the ancient Mesopotamians depicted themselves.

Dahomey Kingdom (Nigeria)


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Hell the Kemetic langauge is still being spoken through interior Africa

Linguistic Unity With Southern and Western Africa
In a detailed study of languages, Diop clearly demonstrates that Ancient Egyptian, modern Coptic of Egypt and Walaf of West Africa are related, with the latter two having their origin in the former.

"Pharaonic Egyptian - Wolof; (Wolof meaning)


Aku - Aku : foreigners (Creole descendants of European traders and African wives)


anu - K.enou : pillar


atef - ate : a crown of Osiris, judge of the soul (to judge)


ba - bei : the ram-god (goat)


ben ben - ben ben : overflow, flood


bon - bon : evil


bu - bu : place


bu bon - bu bon : evil place


bu nafret - bu rafet : good place


da - da : child


Djoob - Djob : a surname


fero - fari : king


itef - itef : father


kau - kaou : elevated, above (heaven)


kem -khem : black (burnt, burnt black)


kemat - kematef : end of a period, completion, limit


khekh - khekh : to fight, to wage war, war


kher - ker : country (house)


lebou - Lebou : those at the stream, Lebou/fishermen Senegal


maat - mat : justice


mer - maar : love (passionate love)


mun - won : buttocks


nag - nag : bull (cattle)


nak - nak : ox, bull (cow)


NDam - NDam : throne


neb - ndab : float


nen - nen : place where nothing is done (nothingness)


nit - nit : citizen


Ntr - Twr : protecting god, totem


nwt - nit : fire of heaven (evening light)


o.k. - wah keh : correct, right


onef - onef : he (past tense)


ones - ones : she (past tense)


Diop's highlighted list.


Testimony of Classical Greek and Roman Authors
Virtually all of the early Latin eyewitnesses described the Ancient Egyptians as Black skinned with woolly hair.



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[Asante]

And that’s who I am surrounded with, white cracker Americans. Thats who I debate with, you know what they say? They don’t try to say the Egyptians were black, they say they were anything other then black. Aliens even. Tribalism in Europe is different from tribalism in Africa for one they are United in whiteness regardless of their nationality or ethnicity. At the end of the day they see themselves as white with distinct history. Africans, from my understanding, see themselves as their tribe FIRST, religion, then black. Black Americans and Americans in general see race first, and Blacks see Egypt as a black African civlizatiion first regardless if it’s East African.

That’s what separates black Americans from black Africans, we try to keep Egypt black and don’t DENY the Egyptians their lineage thus we had to be the gatekeepers of black Egypt. Africans see their tribe and lineage first and see Egypt as secondary. Don’t try to input African methodology into black America.

Yep. Whites went from claiming that they themselves were the Kemites, to claiming that they were "Asiatic" migrants to then claiming that the modern peoples of the land after countless migrations and invasions somehow are the closest to ancient Kemet. Every one of these claims has been debunked. Now they like to act like there are still questions as to who they were. I said it once I say it again, the effort that they put into maintaining lies and confusion is proof that they are Devils.

 

[Asante]

The Egyptians went everywhere BUT the region closest to them


It's a mix of wanting to feel like that they are directly the heirs of ancient Egypt and modern day disdain for Horners

The only people who I've seen carry on the tradition of Ausar, Asset and Heru are Bantu/Niger-Congo peoples. With the exception of the Oromo none of the Horners have this cultural relic of ancient Kemet. Somalis are nomads for example. Why would people go from being agricultural to becoming nomadic (chasing food)? That's backwards. The Habesha are relatively recent migrants, who often time claim origins outside of Africa. Point this out does not make anyone "anti horner".

 

[Asante]

So much false info in here it’s ridiculous

Do you care to elaborate?

 

[Asante]

Mummy DNA unravels ancient Egyptians’ ancestry

Genetic analysis reveals a close relationship with Middle Easterners, not central Africans.


Excavations in the ancient city of Abusir el-Meleq. Credit: Petr Bonek/Alamy
The tombs of ancient Egypt have yielded golden collars and ivory bracelets, but another treasure — human DNA — has proved elusive. Now, scientists have captured sweeping genomic information from Egyptian mummies. It reveals that mummies were closely related to ancient Middle Easterners, hinting that northern Africans might have different genetic roots from people south of the Sahara desert.

The study, published on 30 May in Nature Communications1, includes data from 90 mummies buried between 1380 BC, during Egypt’s New Kingdom, and AD 425, in the Roman era. The findings show that the mummies’ closest kin were ancient farmers from a region that includes present-day Israel and Jordan. Modern Egyptians, by contrast, have inherited more of their DNA from central Africans.

Archaeological discoveries and historical documents suggest close ties between Egypt and the Middle East, but “it is very nice that this study has now provided empirical evidence for this at the genetic level”, says evolutionary anthropologist Omer Gokcumen of the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Egypt’s searing climate and the ancient practice of embalming bodies has made the recovery of intact genetic material daunting. The first DNA sequences thought to be from a mummy2 were probably the result of modern contamination, and many scientists are sceptical3 of purported genetic information acquired from the mummy of King Tutankhamun4.

The latest analysis succeeded by bypassing soft tissue — often abundant in Egyptian mummies — to seek DNA from bone and teeth. Researchers carefully screened the DNA to rule out contamination from anyone who had handled the mummies since their excavation a century ago in the ancient town of Abusir el-Meleq.

“More than half of the mummies we studied had pretty decent DNA preservation,” says co-author Johannes Krause, a palaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany.

The team “succeeds where previous studies on Egyptian mummies have failed or fallen short”, says Hannes Schroeder, a palaeogeneticist at the University of Copenhagen. Now, researchers can hope to answer questions such as whether immigration drove ancient-Egyptian population growth, adds Sonia Zakrzewski, a bioarchaeologist at the University of Southampton, UK.

The scientists obtained information about variations in mitochondrial DNA, which is passed from mother to child, from 90 mummies. Because of contamination, the team was able to acquire detailed nuclear DNA, which is inherited from both parents, from only three mummies.

Both types of genomic material showed that ancient Egyptians shared little DNA with modern sub-Saharan Africans. Instead, their closest relatives were people living during the Neolithic and Bronze ages in an area known as the Levant. Strikingly, the mummies were more closely related to ancient Europeans and Anatolians than to modern Egyptians.

The researchers say that there was probably a pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA into Egypt roughly 700 years ago. The mixing of ancient Egyptians and Africans from further south means that modern Egyptians can trace 8% more of their ancestry to sub-Saharan Africans than can the mummies from Abusir el-Meleq.

The new data can’t explain why the ancient Egyptians were so tightly aligned with people from the Middle East. Was it the result of migration, or were the Stone Age hunter-gatherers of northern Africa genetically similar to those of the Levant? It’s too early to tell, Krause says, but there’s a better chance now of getting answers. “This is the first glimpse of the genetic history of Egypt,” he says. “But it’s really just the start.”

At 49:46 Egyptologist Stuart Smith and even the c00nish Henry Luis Gates dismantle this study in their lecture on the Africanity of ancient Kemet.

Which was years after SOY Keita and Gourdine destroyed this lie with their own study proving that the Kemites were in fact Black Africans.