"Blacks Are Stealing History" Egypt, Sumer, China, Maya etc etc

[Asante]

now this is more like it.

so, at what time period did Mande's split from the rest of the pack and headed Mali/Mauritania because according to historians, the structures in Dhar Tichit has been there since atleast 2000BC by their ancestors

Thanks, and my pics are back up in thread, that I linked to which would make everything make a whole lot more sense. The split from what I see based on the evidence happened during the early Holocene period when the Sahara was green. This group from a linguistic stand point is distinct from all other Niger-Congo groups, and this could only have happened over a long period of separation. Other Niger-Congo groups have closer similarities linguistically, and culturally because of their cohabitation in the Fezzan region and later on Nile River during the Dynastic period.

The evidence of Dhar Tichitt is to me all the proof needed that the Sahara desert, was the source of civilization. There were waves of migrants in two directions East-West (the south was too saturated with the heavy monsoon rains), and in both of those directions civilization sprang up from the migrants.

 

[Samori Toure]

Two of the 12 tribes traced their lineage through DNA in Nigeria and Zimbabwe, forgot the tribe’s name.

The Jews in Zimbabwe are known as the Lemba.

They are descended from Aaron, who was the brother of Moses

Group in Africa Has Jewish Roots, DNA Indicates.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Why can’t they all be different groups of black people? The Khoisan tribe is different from the Sudanese who are different from the avg African American yet they’d all get lumped into being black...

This is about Ethnic lines not race

khoisan aren’t ethnically the same with the Sudanese

 

[Everythingg]

This is about Ethnic lines not race

khoisan aren’t ethnically the same with the Sudanese

And Sudanese aren’t the same ethnically as the avg African American. Yet all would be called “black” in America.

So in regards to your question that I quoted, that’s how “black” people could be all three. Because “black” isn’t a uniform group but has different variations within it.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

And Sudanese aren’t the same ethnically as the avg African American. Yet all would be called “black” in America.

So in regards to your question that I quoted, that’s how “black” people could be all three. Because “black” isn’t a uniform group but has different variations within it.

You’re misinterpreting what’s being said

The Japanese aren’t Chinese and Vice versa Even thought they are both Asians

Again ethnicity And race are not the same


Edit: do we need a crash course on what ethnicity, race, and nationality are itt?

 

[Everythingg]

You’re misinterpreting what’s being said

The Japanese aren’t Chinese and Vice versa Even thought they are both Asians

Again ethnicity And race are not the same


Edit: do we need a crash course on what ethnicity, race, and nationality are itt?

Nah now you’re just deflecting at this point. If someone asked “how can the Egyptians, Israelites, and moors all be Asian?” and someone answered “the Egyptians are Japanese, the Israelites are the Chinese, the moors are Korean” tho wrong it would make perfect sense.

Yet it seems you don’t want to (or refuse to) understand that there are different variations of what we would call “black”. So essentially I’m answering you’re “how could all three be black” question with “there are different variations of black” just as there are different variations of Asians.

 

[null]

America has the most unique history in the world

methinks you might need to travel a tad longer ....

 

[Somebody]

you do know they are in direct contrast with each other. I highly doubt the Islamic caliphate that produced moors would integrate with Jewish people. You MAY be able to make that argument with the Egyptians because of their close relationship with Islam but that’s about it. You do know the same Islamic caliphate led to both the Arab slave trade and the transatlantic slave trade which the moors engaged in? That’s one aspect you people continue to gloss over but at the same time you champion these people?! The madness displayed here is insane

are u trying to say war is somehow the opposite of commerce and socialization instead of a segment of it? the ignorance of your logic is staggering. completely devoid of soundness

 

[Ozymandeas]

maybe
I just find it hard to believe that senegambians, mandes, krus, krans, igbos, hausas and yurubas all came from the same ancient egypt.
most may not know where there people came from 4k years ago, but each of these cultures all have urban legends and myths that just don't align with ancient egytian culture, no matter how many bead necklace that are posted here.
I know for a fact that Mande ancestors were in southern Mauritania as early as 3000 bc in the Dhar Tichectt area. that's why there are still urbanize stone structures there. At what point would they have left Egypt. I also don't believe for one second that kru and krans of Liberia and Ivory coast are anyway related to AE.
All those tribes fled Egypt to find greener postures and escape foreign leaders but they find themselves in west africa when they could have just gone south of the Niles a few hundred miles away and they would have found the great lakes or before that, the highlands of ethiopia?

1. North Africa/the Sahara Desert used to be green and wet, like modern day Botswana. Think 15,000 years ago. There was a proto-civilization there that we don't know much about.
2. As the Sahara region dried up, people went west to create the WA empires, people went east to create the Nile Valley empires, but there was always people traveling between the two via the Sahel.
3. We're talking thousands of years here breh. Some Egyptians might've went to Sudan immediately after being displaced, 300 years later some may have moved to Chad, 400 years later some to Congo, 200 years later some to Nigeria, etc. It's literally just Chad separating WA from EA.
4. It didn't need to be a mass migration event, if even 5% of them left, that's alot of genetic footprint being spread throughtout the continent.

 

[Somebody]

You care too much for Egypt, west Africa societies are just as rich. We have the oldest evidence of Iron smithing in west Africa compared to the rest of the world. Just look Benin and nok art sculptures. The better question is why do you keep running away from west and central Africa and propping Egypt?

because pyramids exist in west africa and are not present at all in saudi arabia. what happened in history matters. stop taking up space and allow for real discussion to be had, cac

 

[Premeditated]

1. North Africa/the Sahara Desert used to be green and wet, like modern day Botswana. Think 15,000 years ago. There was a proto-civilization there that we don't know much about.
2. As the Sahara region dried up, people went west to create the WA empires, people went east to create the Nile Valley empires, but there was always people traveling between the two via the Sahel.
3. We're talking thousands of years here breh. Some Egyptians might've went to Sudan immediately after being displaced, 300 years later some may have moved to Chad, 400 years later some to Congo, 200 years later some to Nigeria, etc. It's literally just Chad separating WA from EA.
4. It didn't need to be a mass migration event, if even 5% of them left, that's alot of genetic footprint being spread throughtout the continent.

I know all this

the timeline of it is just not aligning to me

 

[Ozymandeas]

I know all this

the timeline of it is just not aligning to me

How so breh...seems plausible to me.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Nah now you’re just deflecting at this point. If someone asked “how can the Egyptians, Israelites, and moors all be Asian?” and someone answered “the Egyptians are Japanese, the Israelites are the Chinese, the moors are Korean” tho wrong it would make perfect sense.

Yet it seems you don’t want to (or refuse to) understand that there are different variations of what we would call “black”. So essentially I’m answering you’re “how could all three be black” question with “there are different variations of black” just as there are different variations of Asians.

Jesus my guy if you can’t tell the difference between race, ethnicity, and Nationality I have no idea what to tell you seriously.

ok let me reiterate how can a Nigerian or Ghanaian be an Egyptian or Sudanese. Does that help you?

methinks you might need to travel a tad longer ....

In terms of the last 2 centuries? They pretty much do and I don’t mean that in a good way

 

[3rdWorld]

After Trump, I realized most cacs are racist savages so I haven't cared since what no cac or arab terrorist thinks about us.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

are u trying to say war is somehow the opposite of commerce and socialization instead of a segment of it? the ignorance of your logic is staggering. completely devoid of soundness

I never said it was the opposite in terms of being polar but that’s it on a different side of the same spectrum you jumping to CONCLUSIONS here

because pyramids exist in west africa and are not present at all in saudi arabia. what happened in history matters. stop taking up space and allow for real discussion to be had, cac

There are pyramids even in the Americas but that has Jack to do with the conversation at hand

How the fukk am I the cac, you don’t see me running away from my west African roots like I have something to hide or prove. You don’t see co-opting or hi-jacking shyt not in relation to me. That’s what’s cacs do and you doing the same thing here